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  •  well, thanks for the explanation (5+ / 0-)

    But I'm not sure we learned the same things from our experience of homelessness. And reread your last paragraph, please.  That's exactly the problem I have with diaries like the one I unfortunately referenced.

    If that's being a concern-troll, I suppose I am one on this issue.

    -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Sun Jun 10, 2012 at 07:31:31 PM PDT

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    •  Not only concern-troll (5+ / 0-)
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      I definitely don't think we learned the same things "from our experience of homelessness".  You apparently learned an unremitting cynical bitterness, based on your  hypocritical, judgmental, smug self-righteousness dripping from your reply to my comment.  

      Most of the folks on the street in that extremely hard-core street-living area of L.A. do appear to be tragically beaten down by mental illness and substance abuse.   In a lot of instances, such people can be violent.  I've certainly experienced that first-hand. (Used to be in law-enforcement, myself.)

      What I was pointing out was how basically heroic it was that the people lining up for their lunch/dinner, given how difficult it likely was for some of them to do so, waited with such patient courtesy.   I've seen more deranged, selfish, self-centered, obnoxious behavior at the pizza and beer stands at rock concerts.   Yeah, the folks in our soup line taught me a lot in those moments.

      A number of them requested that we limit their portions so there would be enough for everyone (we had more than enough).  

      And some of them asked for servings that they could take to others sitting and lying in the shade on the concrete nearby who obviously couldn't make it over to our van.   They were so caring and gentle with these others too incapacitated to feed themselves.  

      Not one of them I interacted with that day seemed to be making any judgments against us that we were the "haves" giving "charity" to the "have-nots".    They seemed to appreciate (there's that word that seems like a red-flag to you) our effort to bring them sustenance on a blazing hot day, as much as they appreciated any help and assistance received from each other.  No more and no less.

      Make of all that what you will, but at least perhaps accept that you are inferring and judging others through your own distorted filters.   And that's no different than what most of us do, that you're railing against, y'think?  "Physician, heal thyself," comes to mind here...

      "I'm glad I don't know how it feels to vote to withhold basic human rights from someone else." DavidW-DKos

      by sockpuppet on Sun Jun 10, 2012 at 11:22:39 PM PDT

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    •  Wow. Dave. (4+ / 0-)

      Take a breath.  Did you miss this part of sockpuppet's comment?

      When I was homeless...
      YOU don't get to be the ONLY person who speaks for ALL of US homeless people.  Or to say what we should or should not learn.

      I think I get where you are coming from.  I really do.  But.  You are not helping yourself or anyone else with this kind of approach (and one of the things I learned when homeless is that sometimes in life you have to just do what works, rather than what you want to do).

      •  Take a breath yourself (0+ / 0-)

        Did you miss this?

        But I'm not sure we learned the same things from our experience of homelessness.

        -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

        by Dave in Northridge on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 01:28:22 PM PDT

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