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  •  I agree. (7+ / 0-)

    It's just so difficult to try to maintain the momentum in so many places though we have excellent smaller organizations and individuals fighting Limbaugh, Faux News and its imitators, fundamentalists, etc.

    We have wonderful people, but I wish that we had one or more strong anti-Alec type powerhouse on the left that was sufficiently financed by some big money.

    While I understand that principle and dedication can trump big money in instances it does take the resources to make the degree of impact we need to turn the country around.  It worries me that while we have some multi-millionaires and billionaires on the left who seem to support our goals related to fairness, compassion, equality, and effective democratic government, they haven't come through with the degree of funding and organization that one would have hoped.  It's not really something that I understand, but then it's difficult to know how much information and thus understanding that they may have about the perils that we're facing.

    But then it is heartening to see so much selfless, courageous, hard work from others here and throughout the nation.

    99%er. 100% opposed to fundamentalist/neoconservative/neoliberal oligarchs.

    by blueoasis on Thu May 31, 2012 at 10:33:41 AM PDT

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    •  The momentum is deliberately foiled by the right (2+ / 0-)
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      This is, in fact, the strategy that the right has embraced for decades. Incessantly attack and confuse those on the left so that their attention is diverted from the right's agenda. It's right out of Weyrich's manifesto.

      Although I agree that it would be wonderful if we had more funds available to counter this stuff, the funds won't flow unless and until we have a viable plan and an organization in place able to effectively counter the right's Cabal. It has to be a plan that has shown real results.

      Fortunately, I think we're getting there.

      Recent events have convinced me that there is a way. The list is short so far. Glenn Beck, Komen, Limbaugh, and the tragedy of Trayvon Martin's murder, for a few examples. All of these things have somehow raised the public awareness to a level that finally resulted in positive changes. We need to understand how this happened and figure out how to create this kind of momentum. This works.

      Chipping away at the small pieces and calling out the outrageous lies and wedge issues doesn't work very well.

      When people are directly harmed or realize that they've been the victims of con artists, most will change.

      The revelation that there was a law in place that allowed a racist bigot to legally get away with murder was a very big deal. The immediate press coverage of "Stand Your Ground" and the NRA's connection to ALEC and the multi-state stealth legislation turned ALEC into a dirty word. And there was massive backlash.

      Voter ID is outrageous but it's just an abstract complaint right now. If the DOJ doesn't act, the backlash in November won't be pleasant.

      ALEC is only a small part of the Vast Right Wing Cabal.

      It's odd that most people recognize the names and organizations of the usual right wing suspects but resist the idea that they coordinate their efforts on such an enormous scale.

      /rant (I can't help it sometimes)

      "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

      by GrumpyOldGeek on Thu May 31, 2012 at 03:21:04 PM PDT

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      •  You're right GOG...I have been writing and (1+ / 0-)
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        identifying other organizations that together make up the cabal; funding foundations (Koch, Scaife, Olin, DeVos, etc.), conservative groups like AFP, Heritage, Heartland, Center for National Policy, etc.

        I do this because at some point I hope the MSM - or at least Progressive outlets - will realize that Hillary was right about a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" and not off her rocker.  Just going out and searching for connections on Muckety reveals much about the cabal having clerks within the SCOTUS, the revolving door, recruiting efforts through "internships", etc.

        The Eric Heubech "Treatise": "The Integration of Theory and Practice: A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement" was written based upon the Weyrich teachings and manifesto.  It describes in detail why and how to keep the "left" off balance, how to continuously discredit our initiatives and policies, how to recruit from our colleges and why education must become "theirs" in order to instill a change in our culture...

        I'm sure it is read from as a holy document at every one of the Koch's private gatherings.

        So yes, we must develop our own treatise, detailing how we must proceed to overcome and the first thing that entails is finding funding to support such an important initiative.  That has proven elusive for the past year - even as everything has become public regarding ALEC and their members leaving in droves - as those with the funding available, refuse or are reluctant to contribute to our efforts.  Go figure.

        "Inmates should be reformed - not recycled"

        by Bob Sloan on Thu May 31, 2012 at 03:54:57 PM PDT

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        •  We'll get there, Bob. (1+ / 0-)
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          Your efforts to keep the pressure up on ALEC  through exposure and actions posted at VLTP is vitally important to everyone. The stellar work at CMD and the legal challenges from Common Cause has me fired up, for sure.

          I've been distracted by the efforts to reign in the tyranny in Wisconsin, my home state. It goes without saying that ALEC is the primary source of Walker's overreach, but there's also the John Doe issues, bullying, corruption, etc. So it's been busy.

          The "Treatise", which I usually call the "manifesto", makes for a lousy book of instructions. It's more like a case study for Hofstadter's essay on The Paranoid Style in American Politics. There's nothing new in their manifesto. When their crazy ideas don't stand on their own, their behavior goes off the rails. The imaginary threat of the evil amoral left is their worst nightmare.

          They are terrified of the left.

          Knowing what buttons to push is a big advantage. Exposure and ridicule seem to get them going. They tend to double down. That reaction backfired for Komen and the Rushbag.

          I like seeing an occasional report of infighting among the factions of wingers. One that was relevant was back when the CNP called their emergency meeting to choose their endorsement for president.  They voted and voted until they got the answer they wanted, tossed the Catholic faction out the door, and it all got leaked to the public. Then Bachmann whined and leaked names of a couple of CNP members. Oops.

          The most obvious infighting was among the loser candidates themselves. I had hoped that they'd still be throwing all that unlimited cash down the crapper.

          We'll get there.

          "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

          by GrumpyOldGeek on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 01:06:46 AM PDT

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