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  •  We need a wedge issue (3+ / 0-)
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    Maybe immigration?  We need to leverage Hispanics and somehow keep them out of the arms of the fundamentists. The RC would be thrilled to have them in the pews

    •  Prohibition, redux, against the Calvinists and (6+ / 0-)

      Mormons as well as confession and the Hail Maries against the Catholics.  Once you have a crowd that's all whooped up in a religious fervor it's not hard to throw out some dogmatic stinkbomb that'll get them fighting among themselves.

      That's what the petty noblemen used to trigger the Thirty Years' War.

      Never meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer.--Bruce Graham

      by Ice Blue on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 09:11:34 AM PDT

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      •  There are always new ways to seek power (2+ / 0-)
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        Luther and Calvin had caused a great deal of harm to the stability of Europe, but their teachings had been around for a century before the 30-Years' War happened. Religion was the justification, but the greed for power was the cause. Today's Dominionists are no different. They are about power and they preach their religion to fit their desires.

        The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

        by freelunch on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 12:44:39 PM PDT

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    •  Too late (6+ / 0-)

      Latin America is a major growth center for Evangelicals, has been for some time.

      Pentecostalism has become a significant part of Latin America's religious and political landscape in recent years. Especially since the 1960s, the region has witnessed dramatic growth in the number of pentecostals. According to 2005 figures from the World Christian Database, pentecostals represent 13%, or about 75 million, of Latin America's population of nearly 560 million. Charismatic members of non-pentecostal denominations, who in Latin America are overwhelmingly Catholic, number an additional 80 million or so, or 15% of the population. As recently as 1970, pentecostals and charismatics combined represented no more than 4% of the region's population.

      from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 09:15:43 AM PDT

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    •  the wedge (3+ / 0-)

      is the dominionists dogma, vs. the actual (as in Matthew) teachings of Jesus. Start with Matthew 7: 1-5. The crack is objectified dogma vs. personal spirituality. As Jesus said in 1-5, paraphrased, you take care of yourself before you go telling somebody else what to do.

      There are two responses to those who will try to parse:
      1- "So you deny the teachings of Jesus? Then you deny Jesus himself, and you doom your own self"
      2 -"So you judge. Does that mean you think you are better than Jesu who told you not to?"

      The "tell" about certain types of Christians is their near absolute refusal to talk about what Jesus taught. They will always talk about what God days, and about what some prophet said, but ask them about what Jesus taught, and you'll get a blank.

      "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

      by azureblue on Sat Jun 02, 2012 at 09:57:16 AM PDT

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