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  •  That sounds right. (49+ / 0-)

    In fact, DOJ may be able to get a court order reinstating those they purged.  

    I hope they use every remedy they have.  

    I'm from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner Wing of the Democratic Party!

    by TomP on Thu May 31, 2012 at 06:06:34 PM PDT

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    •  However the real question may be is Obama (2+ / 0-)
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      willing to send troops to Florida to enforce such a court order?

      There is no saving throw against stupid.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 02:10:57 AM PDT

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      •  That's a good question (3+ / 0-)
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        how else could such a thing be enforced beyond "sternly worded letters"?

        Don't get me wrong, I welcome this (with much applause, even), but words alone will not deter the thieves and charlatans who have stolen Tallahassee. There has to be a threat of something bigger to deter these bastards.

        It is time to #Occupy Media.

        by lunachickie on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 04:15:23 AM PDT

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      •  In the end, Pres. Obama will have no choice (7+ / 0-)

        but to enforce the law physically.  Just my perception, based on what I know about Rick Scott.  The man is a crook of the first rank.  He is very, very slick, and it will take the full weight of the DoJ to stop him -- and even that might not do it.  We're talking about a man who perpetrated massive Medicare fraud when he ran HCA hospitals in Florida, after all, and never was prosecuted or even charged.  

        So, if Floridians are to be allowed equal access to the ballot box regardless of party affiliation, race, age, etc., it could take a revisiting of Freedom Summer to accomplish that end.

        "Fighting Fascism is Always Cool." -- Amsterdam Weekly, v3, n18 (-8.50, -7.23)

        by Noor B on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 07:19:07 AM PDT

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        •  Filed under Most Surreal Shit I've Ever Seen (2+ / 0-)
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          We're talking about a man who perpetrated massive Medicare fraud when he ran HCA hospitals in Florida, after all, and never was prosecuted or even charged.
          I've found this deeply troubling. WTF does it say about an apparent majority of the people of FL? It's not like this info was a secret. Voters heard about it and decided it was irrelevant and voted for him anyway. W. T. F. ?

          Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

          by JTinDC on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 08:22:38 AM PDT

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          •  He won with a margin of (3+ / 0-)
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            less than 70K votes out of 5.3 million cast. CBS News
            Since no one of either party has addressed the black box voting problem/scanner problem since 2004, it's not hard to imagine 70K votes easily being flipped.

            Mitt, you're so full of shitt.

            by OleHippieChick on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 09:09:32 AM PDT

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            •  It would be great if problems like these were at (2+ / 0-)
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              least not dismissed by some as being as nutty as truther/birtherism CT.

              As long as a we keep using voting systems literally manufactured, programmed, and maintained by GOP businessmen then all the GOP has left to do is make an election close enough through deception and suppression and let the machines make up the difference.  

              They're serious about wanting to secure permanent majorities. I wish more of us would take their serioiusness more seriously.  

              Ds see human suffering and wonder what they can do to relieve it. Rs see human suffering and wonder how they can profit from it.

              by JTinDC on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 09:58:47 AM PDT

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              •  this was one of our big issues after the 2000 (2+ / 0-)
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                election for good reason. Nothing's changed for the better, but the voter ID laws and voter registration laws in so many states are so heinous and obvious and imminently threatening that I'm afraid the voting machines and records have taken a second seat in terms of priorities.
                Here in MD, my nice blue state, we still have no paper record of votes, even though there were some pretty questionable things that happened during a couple of elections. Linda Lamone, administrator of the State Board of Elections, is still in office even though she defended the machines and the lack of a paper record against valid complaints (I myself experienced a voting machine failure that happened pretty commonly in that election). She's nominally a Democrat, but the awful Republican former governor, Ehrlich, adored her. I guess our very good governor doesn't have the power to replace her.
                And in the end, in our state, I think the problems with the machines were not part of a conspiracy but were due to the unreliability and glitchiness of the system. That doesn't mean they weren't important -- just that they didn't lead to outcomes that would motivate people to keep fighting on this issue, even though we should be fighting!
                I would love to see a national law that required all sorts of checks and balances (as a researcher I would like that to include random sample of machine totals compared against paper records, and Rush Holt of NJ suggested exactly that); and the same laws to protect people from losing their voting rights due to being purged/caged/intimidated.

                We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

                by Tamar on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 11:43:55 AM PDT

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              •  Srsly! (1+ / 0-)
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                Mitt, you're so full of shitt.

                by OleHippieChick on Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 12:58:22 PM PDT

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      •  They don't need troops if they have the "troops" (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm hoping it won't come to this.   Public opinion is a fickle thing and sending in federal troops could swing it against Obama.  That type of force should be the very last resort.  

        My guess is that if an injunction is issued and the wording is broad enough, it will provide a safe harbor for local elections official to ignore Scott and do whatever the feds tell them to - hopefully including the restoration of names improperly dropped and notification to the targeted voters that they are in fact eligible to vote.

        I don't see local elections officials (except for a few batsh!t crazies still channeling Katherine Harris) risking jail time to carry water for their insane governor.

        On Wednesday, Palm Beach County Elections Supervisor Susan Bucher (D) told ThinkProgress her office has rejected the error-ridden list of alleged non-citizen voters sent to county officials by Gov. Rick Scott’s (R-FL) administration. Now, as the Department of Justice has told Florida to stop its illegal purge, other county elections officials across Florida have confirmed their counties will not comply with the state’s effort:

        – Sarasota County: Joyce Soltis, administrative assistant to Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent (R) told ThinkProgress that the county received 14 names of from the state as sure-fire non-citizens. At least two to three of them have already proved their citizenship to the county and one was removed after indicating that he or she was not an eligible voter. Soltis said that while the remaining 10 or 11 voters have not responded, due to the significant inaccuracies on the list, the office has decided “We are not purging anyone,” from that group.

        – Volusia County: Supervisor of Elections Ann McFall (R) told ThinkProgress that that county received 15 names from the state. One was not even sent a letter, because the voter is currently serving in the military and another has already proven citizenship. But she said they have no plans to remove any of the remaining 13 voters unless her office receives clear proof. “To say the least, the list is very suspect,” she explained.

        – Hillsborough County: The Tampa Tribune reported today that Supervisors or Elections Earl Lennard (R) has also decided not to remove any voters on the unreliable list from the rolls without first receiving corroborating evidence that the voters are not citizens.

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