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  •  Ron Paul fans say Syria's Assad is the GOOD guy. (5+ / 1-)
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    The Ron Paul fans are all quoting this now from Jeff Prager:

    The presence of Syrian National Transitional Council head Bassma Kodmani at the 2012 Bilderberg conference clearly indicates that power brokers at the elite confab will be discussing the effort to topple President Bashar Al-Assad and install a NATO-friendly administration in the violence-stricken country. What I don't understand is why so few people seem to get it. We sat back and watched this thing play out the same way in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia and elsewhere and we've seen it for decades with the breakup of Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. Those two countries were turned into 15 little mini-mafia states. In Egypt and Tunisia we're trying to install pro-US government systems, in Somalia and Sudan we're still fighting with boots and weapons, in Libya we're kind of in wait-and-see mode and in Iraq we succeeded in fully destroying the country which is the final end goal for the most recalcitrant and defiant rulers. Why would anyone think that Assad is killing his own people? Why? Obviously NATO, the UK, the US, Israel, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and certainly several other players are intimately involved with arming the Assad opposition in Syria. These Al Qaeda "freedom fighter" folks aren't buying rocket propelled grenades at your local Syrian WalMart.
    So... Assad's the good guy just trying to stop al-Qaeda freedom fighters???

    Wow................................  BTW, who is Jeff Prager (not to be confused with sex therapist Dennis Prager)?  This is his info:

    Free Speech. Foreign and Domestic Zionists are behind 911

    9/11 was a Zionist, Mossad, CIA, NeoCon Conspiracy. If you don't get it I probably can't help you but I promise, I'm going to try.

    ♥ * * * PRIVACY NOTICE * * * ♥

    WARNING-any person and/or institution and/or Agency of any governmental, state, city structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government, corporations, banks, collection agencies and their entities using or monitoring/using this website contents or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize ANY of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are STRICTLY PROHIBITED from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating or taking any other action, legal or otherwise, against me, my family, my relatives, my friends in regards to this profile and contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee(s), agent(s), student(s) or any other personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are private and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law.

    Tinfoil much?  And is he going to try to sue me or DailyKos for having posted that here, despite him making it publicly available for anyone on Facebook to see?
    •  you really gotta quit these folks, BK /nt (12+ / 0-)

      slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare." 政治委员, 政委!

      by annieli on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 08:39:45 PM PDT

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    •  Bruinkid, have you tried to sell the Paulturds (9+ / 0-)

      gold yet? If not, you should.

      I've got some rocks and gold paint, we could make a mint off of the tin foil Paulclowns!

      :)

      "Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend" - Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 08:42:03 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, and they hate Krugman too. (8+ / 0-)

      They've been spreading around this motivational poster.  Hmm, the embed code for it only uses a tiny version that's basically unreadable for some reason.  It says:

      "To fight this recession the Fed needs more than a snapback; it needs soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment.  And to do that, as Paul McCulley of Pimco put it, Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble."
      - Paul Krugman, 2002

      Keynesians
      Failing Since 1936

      And then they all cheer about how Krugman is evil and Ron Paul knows all.  Sigh.  They're also spreading around this picture too of Willy Wonka going, "Without coercion no one would build a road?  Oh yes, tell me all about the shortage of cotton we've been having ever since we abolished slavery."

      One of the female Ron Paul fans I know responded thusly when someone else pointed out how silly that premise was:

      Think about it this way. If a company wants to establish itself somewhere....and there are no roads to get to where this company is...how would it ever thrive? It wouldn't. Thus the company would have to build a road in order for people to get to it. It is absolutely ridiculous to say that without government there would be no roads that the public could use. What is government made up of? People. So whether its via gov or not there roads would exist and people would utilize those roads.
    •  I noticed you didn't post a link there. (1+ / 0-)
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      Probably a good idea. Tin-foil wearing conspiracy theorists aren't neccessarily shy about legal action.

      You do realize that you can't just lift original content off a website and put it on another, right? Even if stuff is right out there in the open for everyone to see?  That's called intellectual property theft, even if the property doesn't seem very intellectual.

      This "privacy policy" is very strange, but it's his original work. Certainly, it does not appear to be boilerplate.

      Technically, you could likely argue fair use. But who wants to be entangled with this guy for 2-4 years of litigation?

      So, I'm laughing with you, of course.

      But stuff on the Internet is still legally protected.
      If I post poetry on Facebook, you do not have the right to repost it here.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Sun Jun 03, 2012 at 11:58:55 PM PDT

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      •  But what about all those cases... (2+ / 0-)
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        of local politicians and other right-wingers saying incredibly hateful and racist stuff on Facebook, and people posting screenshots and links of it to make it go viral and publicly expose these people as bigots?

        Why haven't any of them sued?  Or is it because so many people started sharing, they couldn't figure out who to sue?

        •  Fair use says you can take a bit of something (2+ / 0-)
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          To discuss for a variety of uses: to rebroadcast for a news report is one.   So mostly in these cases, fair use would be the best defense.  Links back to the original are ok (assuming the original is still online). And it's the very nature of Twitter to rebroadcast these little bits. So I think Twitter is a medium where technology may be out ahead of the law.

          This is a good guide. The info on fair use is toward the bottom: http://www.copyright.gov/...

          (There are attorneys who make good livings parsing out what this means. I tend to err on the side of being cautious and citing no more than a few lines with a link for the rest of the story. )

          And yes, of course, knowing who took the offending item off the internet and released it to reproduce virally is always a major sticking point, as is the fact that in the case of a truly embarrassing scandal, the harmed party rarely wants to keep the offending matter out in the open any longer than they need to, and litigation preserves everything and drags everything out for a long time, often with highlighted media attention.

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Mon Jun 04, 2012 at 12:33:02 AM PDT

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