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  •  This is an important point: (1+ / 0-)
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    Liberals fear a convention for what conservatives would be advocating. But what would liberals be advocating? Once called, would liberals not press in for what they think are good ideas? Whatever is proposed you have to get all one side signed on plus at least half the other or it goes nowhere. In the mean time, the whole country deliberates over such things the Congress never will. I trust We The People more than I trust Congress and corporate power.

    •  I agree with you and SemiAdult ... (0+ / 0-)

      I trust that We The People can and would do the right thing ... if only given the chance ... and that goes back to the issue of applications for a convention ... with 400 applications having been submitted one would think we'd have had a convention called by now ...

      •  There's one reason, and one reason only (1+ / 0-)
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        as to why we haven't had a convention: msm and politicians have misinformed the electorate, leading them to believe that once a convention is called everything is up for grabs. Of course this is untrue because of the ratification process. Once enough of us realize there's nothing to lose and everything to gain through the Constitution's convention clause we will have one. From there the power of the people, through their high law, will become self evident

        •  I have to differ, slightly . . . (2+ / 0-)
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          FeltzNook, 1965Dreamer

          . . . on this one.

          The reason there hasn't been a convention is that most of the Congress is not willing to risk a shred of power (that is, give up the control of money) to anyone for any reason. Nothing else matters at that level. The very few members who have actual, you know, principles, can't matter very much against that flood.

          You may be right that the public is misinformed. I would say uninformed, but so is most of the media, therefore it's unfortunate to lay the blame on them in any singular way -- they're part of the obstruction, but hardly all of it. It could be easily argued that most politicians fall into the same useless category. This line of thought clearly leads us to ALEC as more of a source of the lies, which makes the diary all the more important.

          But we're together on the simple notion that the people, well-informed, know right from wrong.

          The furnace of Affliction produces Refinement, in States as well as Individuals. John Adams, 1776.

          by semiAdult on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 10:02:41 AM PDT

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