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  •  Exactly (22+ / 0-)

    And I think it's important to find out what that is, because Dems are missing an important message or...something.

    •  I think they are afraid of change. (13+ / 0-)

      What they grew up with doesn't work and they don't know what to do. I honestly think these people are scared s**tless and don't get that there really is somewhere else to turn.

      If this election doesn't make Obama draw a line in the sand with Romney, I can't imagine what will.

      People don't just want a choice, they desperately need one that they understand and feel aligns with what they believe.

      •  I think they are used to rooting for their team. (7+ / 0-)

        They are Republican. Period. It doesn't matter what that even means anymore. This has allowed that party to get away with pulling us all farther and farther to the right.


        by voracious on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 06:32:32 PM PDT

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        •  Chuck out the rest... (2+ / 0-)
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          This is one of my pet views.  I call it the mindless cheerleader culture.

          I think two of the ideas pounded into people in American high schools have a lot to do with how inflexible they can be politically later on in life:

          (1)  Gimme a G.  G!  Gimme me an O.  O! Gimme a P.  P!  What does it spell?  GOP!  Louder.  GOP!  Can’t hear you…

          Cheerleaders are a feature of every high school football game in America.  What do they stand for?  They promote vacuous support for the local side based on slick routines, plastic smiles and whose voices can drown out the other side regardless of the merits of athleticism, effort, intelligent play and sportsmanship.   Cheerleaders reinforce to every kid in America that it’s desirable to prance around the sidelines cheering loudly if you’re not athletic enough or smart enough to play the main game.  Rethug behavior mimics this.

          (My apologies to any former cheerleaders out there.)

          (2)  We're the best, chuck out the rest.

          Kids are encouraged to believe that their high school is way better than every other high school in the league, even through some opponents are just across town and a lot of cousins are rival students.  Think of a pep rally.  It puts me in mind of mass fascist and communist rallies of the 1950s.  Everyone is required to attend.  There is tremendous pressure to act like you care.

          Mindless cheering for the home team occupies every Friday night and Saturday afternoon in every small town in America.  Most overseas visitors simply cannot believe the crowds that attend hometown high school games.  Think football in Texas, wrestling in New Jersey, ice hockey in Massachusetts.  This in turn fosters an us vs. them mentality, even among people who have a lot in common.  It leads to enthusiasm for 'othering' anyone slightly outside.  I've got mine; sucks to be you.  Sound familiar?

          I haven't put this as elegantly as I wanted, but I'll work on my little theory and make it more articulate in future.

          "He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help." ~ Abraham Lincoln

          by harchickgirl1 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 12:35:09 AM PDT

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    •  You are spot on with this: (6+ / 0-)
      because Dems are missing an important message or...something.
    •  Culture wars (0+ / 0-)

      in too many issues democrats are the party of the revolution, the shoving down new and controversial issues down the collective throats.

      I don't have to spell the issues out for you. And for any of those issues there is a group of people to whom this plainly suggests "go away. You are not one of us":

      And, with the notable exception of abortion, every of these issues is a losing proposition for Democrats. (Abortion is, arguably, a zero sum game - you loose the pro life moderates but make up for that in women voters).

      But more importantly you loose on the cultural issues. Even people who mostly agree with you turn away if they get the wrong vibes (for lack of a better word).

      •  Racial Equality? (3+ / 0-)
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        And, with the notable exception of abortion, every of these issues is a losing proposition for Democrats.
        Which Republicans oppose on a subtle level.

        "Sisters, brothers and the whities, Blacks and the crackers, Police and their backers, They're all political actors"--Curtis Mayfield

        by Cynic in seattle on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 08:39:47 PM PDT

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      •  what you say worries me (0+ / 0-)

        but I think you are honestly telling how it feels to be put off by liberal positions

        if you feel like elaborating, being more specific, I would like to continue the conversation

        It is the highest impertinence ... in kings and ministers, to pretend to watch over the economy of private people, ... They are themselves always, and without any exception, the greatest spendthrifts in the society. - Adam Smith

        by treesrock on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 06:04:46 AM PDT

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