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  •  Nope. (0+ / 0-)

    You can make points like that without bringing Nazis into it. That's why we coined the whole "Godwin's law," remember?

    You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

    by tomjones on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 06:34:40 PM PDT

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    •  I must admit (0+ / 0-)

      I try to avoid bringing Nazis, or mention thereof, into my diaries.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

      by FishOutofWater on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 07:37:27 PM PDT

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    •  Would you suggest an alternative? (7+ / 0-)

      What's the point in having history if you ban yourself from using it where appropriate?

      The Reactionary Right probably won't turn in to the Nazis, but it's spooky how this country is Tokyo Drifting to the right.  Only 19 years ago, Republicans proposed essentially Obamacare as an alternative to an expected Democratic health care reform package; less than 10 years ago, the current Republican candidate had a similar plan enacted in his state.  Now you can't find a Republican who thinks it's anything less than Socialist.  In the 1970's, Nixon signed in to law the EPA, ESA, and other environmental protections; now anything that stands between corporations and pure profit is anti-American.

      This isn't generational, or gender based, or age-related.  It is irrational, and looking back through history the best example of an entire country essentially sliding off the rails in willful ignorance is Nazi Germany - not for its atrocities, but during the lead-up when they were simply implementing policies that more and more went against common sense while Germans seemed not to know.

      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

      by Phoenix Rising on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:04:20 AM PDT

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      •  actually I read recently where (1+ / 0-)
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        academics, historians who do study
        fascism professionally, have only spoken out recently

        they seem to have a checklist of some sort
        and said that until recently, the U.S. was not
        far enough along the road to fascism to worry

        now they say we should worry
        and the question is
        what kind of fascism will we be getting?

        the corporate kind (like Mussolini) or
        the brownshirt kind (like Hitler)

        when Romney got the nomination instead of Gingrich, I took that to mean we will be getting Mussolini's variety

        I think that means the good news is that your leaders won't actively harness the fury of those talk-radio hate boogers against us - they will just do nothing, but nothing, to protect us from them (the folks at Planned Parenthood have decades of experience dealing with this one, so they can help with advice)

        instead, we will get the corporate fascist harm they intend for us after the election - Simpson-Bowles

        roll over Beethoven indeed, Mussolini is rocking our world now y'all

        It is the highest impertinence ... in kings and ministers, to pretend to watch over the economy of private people, ... They are themselves always, and without any exception, the greatest spendthrifts in the society. - Adam Smith

        by treesrock on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:10:01 AM PDT

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