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  •  Old folks do not get a pass. They are the one's (42+ / 0-)

    who are dependent on Medicare, Social Security, and pensions.  If they are living on the proceeds of a 401K, they have an interest in seeing that the investment community is regulated and fair.  To give old people a pass is to say that when you get old, it is OK to be stupid.  It is not OK to be stupid.  At what age do you get to be a stupid old person?  65? 70? Older?  The safety net that progressives are concerned about affects old people as much as anyone else.  No, they do not get a pass.  

    And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

    by MrJersey on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 07:48:45 PM PDT

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    •  Agreed.... (9+ / 0-)

      Old people do NOT get a pass, they are as culpable as anyone of any adult age.  If you were smart once, unless there is a serious medical reason, there is no excuse for 'age-related' stupidity.
      If you were able to use critical thinking once, then it must be continued, it keeps the mind supple and stops the lazy slide to irrationality.
      No pass for old people on the stupid question.
      There is no excuse to be willfully stupid at any age.

      I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

      by Lilyvt on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 08:05:11 PM PDT

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      •  And demography is with the Republicans: (0+ / 0-)

        It's assumed the Republican Party is doomed demographically because of the emergence of a non-white majority.

        But I've read that, extrapolating from current aging and health trends, about 40% of the US population will be suffering from dementia by 2050. Demented voters are Republican voters.

        •  Well.... (1+ / 0-)
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          I'll be over 100 in 2050, and I may be thinking about other things than the 40% of voters with dementia.
          Frankly, I'm concerned with the voters of today (who presumably don't have dementia) and still make the demented decision to vote completely against their own best interests when they vote for repubs.

          I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

          by Lilyvt on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 07:04:56 AM PDT

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    •  okay maybe not a pass..:-) (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't know...some of them have lived a hard life. My grandparents grew up during Jim crow...some union workers in factories and coal mines were killed, terrorized, and tortured for just wanting to bring home enough money for their families to eat....Guess I just feel like their generation paid their price and has a lot to be proud of....

      Now it's the next generations turn....first the greatest generation in WWII, then progressive reforms: civil rights, voting rights, weekends, social security, Medicare....what is it that the next generation will leave as their legacy?  Facebook?

    •  Yup. Agreed. (9+ / 0-)

      I AM a Boomer.  First year Baby Boomer, in fact.  I turned 66 earlier this year (born nine months after VE Day).

      I do NOT give my fellow Boomers a pass for stupidity.  We were seniors in high school when JFK was shot in Nov. '63, and when The Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan in Feb '64.  My generation lost people in Vietnam and protested the war when our relatives and friends were drafted and sent off to get killed for no fathomable reason (which is why some of us just damn near came unhinged when Dumbya and Dickie started two illegal and unconstitutional wars; Deja vu all over again, and it set up a mental state of PTSD before soldiers even came home with PTSD or in coffins this time).

      Unless they are medically and psychologically genuinely tested and afflicted with early-onset Alzheimer's, no passes for people my age who keep voting these cretins into office only to have these "elected" morons destroy the infrastructure of our country..., or worse, try or get their greedy and f##king sticky fingers on our Social Security monies.

      Nuh-uh.  No.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 09:27:16 PM PDT

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    •  Especially since (3+ / 0-)
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      I've been assured, with no shortage of smug self-aggrandizement, from a very young age that "with age comes wisdom."

      And yet I've heard ridiculous things all my life from my supposedly wiser elders that made me wonder, "How old will I have to be before that makes any damn sense?"

      My other car is a pair of boots.

      by FutureNow on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 06:11:24 AM PDT

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