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  •  I agree, except for that last part. (2+ / 0-)
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    OhioNatureMom, badger

    It has been clear to me for a long time that the Democratic party is not a progressive party.  But what I don't understand is why Democrats have to have reasons to vote for them but Republicans don't.

    The Republicans strategy, openly stated, has been to make Obama fail. To stop his entire agenda and keep him from even getting a chance to make his ideas work.  Sure, he hasn't been the genius, 11 dimensional chess playing, rope-a-dope president so many expected, but at the end of the day, the GOP along with the aid of a weak, non-progressive democratic party, prevented him from even considering going for the required solutions.

    You can say that makes him weak, and not capable, but who the hell could overcome that?  Name one person.  The people elected Obama by a large margin. He deserved to succeed or fail on his agenda.

    And at the same time, republicans can run on doing what I just described, NOTHING BUT OBSTRUCTION.  What exactly are they running on? What reasons are they giving for anyone but their base to vote for them.  The majority of Americans were repulsed by the GOP primaries.   But Dems can't point out that the other guy has serious problems with his claims of competence?  His claims of success where there were none?

    Please explain to me why Dems need to convince you to vote for them, but pugs don't.  I'd really like to know.

    Would we be so happy to have a military that dwarfs all others combined if it was a line item deduction on our paychecks next to FICA."

    by Back In Blue on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:00:37 PM PDT

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    •  Republicans do convince people to vote for them (0+ / 0-)

      Republican voters either don't see Republican politics as obstructionist, or they actively want obstruction. Either way, the GOP is convincing their voters to turn out and to vote GOP.

      The GOP lost about 10% of votes in WI between 2008 and 2010. The Dems lost over 30%. Yesterday, Walker got more votes than McCain, but Barrett still fell nearly 600,000 votes short of Obama's total. Those 600,000 didn't vote GOP (more or less) - they didn't vote, along with another 600,000 or so who didn't vote in 2008 either. Barrett could have beat Walker two to one if all those votes were collected.

      Dems need to convince you to vote for them only if you want to win elections, and they need big wins only if you want government to address people's real problems - that's what a campaign is about, and Democrats are doing it wrong.

      It's never too late to have a happy childhood - Tom Robbins

      by badger on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:10:03 AM PDT

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      •  Not different. (0+ / 0-)

        If the GOP is getting voters to vote for them to STOP OBAMA, or any configuration of that theme, then how is what the Dems are doing right now trying to STOP WALKER, ROMNEY, fill in the blank GOP scumbag?

        I honestly think GOP voters don't care about the details. They just want to be "FOR" being against everyone else.  After all, it's the definition of a conservative to not want anything to change unless it means going back to the way they think things use to be.

        Dems/liberals on the other hand, for reasons I simply do not understand, would rather fight in the tall grasses of the dunes about the finer points of "that dem sucks because he didn't do what I wanted" only to get swept away by the title wave of austerity and social neanderthal-ism, that is the GOP's plans for America.

        At the very least I am voting to help keep from losing any more ground, on the supreme court, in congress, state and local govts, voter suppression and disenfranchisement, and yes, the presidency.  Because why on earth would anyone actually vote to make things harder on themselves?

        Why isn't what Romney plans to do scaring the shit out of every non-conservative in this country?  I know we're not supposed to blame the voters, but from the interviews of Wisconsin voters, especially that very special group of Obama voters who voted for Walker, all I can say is that this country is in big trouble if this is typical of the average American.

        But, hey!  We're dems!  We're liberals!  We love misery!

        Would we be so happy to have a military that dwarfs all others combined if it was a line item deduction on our paychecks next to FICA."

        by Back In Blue on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 06:20:10 PM PDT

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