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  •  Yes, that's part of it (2+ / 0-)
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    OhioNatureMom, badger

    But why is it that we have 1.2 million Wisconsin voters voting to keep Walker in office when it's against many of their interests (and sounding more and more like he's just a corrupt bastard to boot)?

    We have to answer that question, too - we can't spend all of our time wondering just how it is that we can't manage to get 600,000 Obama voters to vote for Barrett.  (Some of those voters did vote for Walker if exit polls are correct; others were out of state, since college is out; still others aren't engaged in off-season politics - the reasons are many.)  And too, if this was a regular recall election, getting as many voters out for a recall as you got for the regular election would have done the trick.

    So let's not throw this question under the bus just because it sounds like blaming the voter.  The diarist has a great question: why is it that Democrats are losing so many votes from people who are voting against their best interests?  These should be "our" voters, coming out and voting for our candidates.  Can we bring them around?  Are we missing something?

    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

    by Phoenix Rising on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 01:26:54 AM PDT

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    •  Walker actually got 1.3M (0+ / 0-)

      more than McCain polled in 2008. Barrett got 1.1M, beating his 2010 total.

      It makes no difference why 1.3M people voted for Walker, if 1.7M had voted for Barrett - worry about the 600,000 votes you had and lost instead of peeling off a few thousand votes from Walker's total.

      Worrying about the 1.3M instead is how you get Democrats fighting to cut Social Security and Medicare, worrying more about the deficit than jobs, abandoning a public option in health insurance, and losing elections.

      How to win:

      1. Get all of your voters to vote.

      2. Get the voters who don't vote at all to turnout and vote for you (another 600,000 in WI at least, I'd guess).

      3. Don't presume that you know what a voter's "interests" are better than the voter does, and don't presume that voters perceive the Democratic Party's relation to their interests in the same way you do.

          a. Ask the voters (your voters) and develop and implement policies accordingly (the present method is ask the donors and cater to them). Issue polls already do this.

          b. Educate voters or persuade voters where you can't alter policy to accommodate their present views; frame the debate to emphasize areas of agreement.

      It's never too late to have a happy childhood - Tom Robbins

      by badger on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 11:01:43 AM PDT

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