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  •  Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman and the Koch Brothers (5+ / 0-)

    all tried to buy California in 2010. And despite our unemployment and foreclosure rate being higher than the national average, we didn't ride the GOP wave like the rest of the country, we defeated all of them.

    In that same election cycle, President Obama was implored to go to Massachusetts to campaign on behalf of the Democratic candidate. He did. She lost.

    Sometimes in politics, like the rest of life, stuff happens.

    This night did not go as many Democrats wanted it to. But that doesn't mean the election results is a final say on how Democrats or the President will do in November anymore than Schwarzneggar winning a recall in California and proposition 8 passing there represented a seachange in California politics.

    Sometimes stuff happens. Sometimes we're simply outnumbered. It hurts first, then you get mad and vow it won't happen the next time.

    Massachusetts Democrats moved from hurt to Elizabeth Warren. We moved from recalling a Democrat to electing Democratic veteran Jerry Brown.

    The will of Wisconsin voters reached all the way to Tahrir Square in Cairo. Lot of new voters were registered. Romney exit polled badly.

    Things look bleak at the moment but there are many green shoots of hope that came out of this process.

    “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

    by FiredUpInCA on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 10:35:19 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      But I guess what I'm saying is that it's too simplistic to say money bought this election when we can look at people like Whitman, Fiorina and Sharron Angle (who sent ME, a true blue "non-Virginian" northern Virginian multiple findraising appeals during her ill-fated run). I DO think money was a factor with low-info voters. But this margin seems too large to account for that.

      Something in our messaging failed to appeal to the majority of voters, and as dumbfounding as it may seem, I doubt that something was Obama's failure to stump in Wisconsin.

      We need to figure out what part of our message didn't reasonate and fix that--fast--for the general. Why didn't money work in California? Why does "stuff happen" elsewhere, like tonight in Wisconsin? I would like to see some soul-searching beyond blaming Obama for everything.

      •  California? Easy (0+ / 0-)

        I hadn't heard of the candidates races until pretty much today and saw NO lawn signs for any candidate on either side. None. I didn't receive ANY mailers this time either. No calls came in. And while I live in a suburban area and often find my door knocked on by Witnesses, carpet salespeople, and folks seeking money for charity, the Party did zero outreach this year to my humble abode which contains one "decline to state" voter and one "Democratic" voter. That's problematic.

      •  I agree with all of this (3+ / 0-)
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        gramofsam1, mahakali overdrive, kat68
        Yes, I agree.But I guess what I'm saying is that it's too simplistic to say money bought this election when we can look at people like Whitman, Fiorina and Sharron Angle (who sent ME, a true blue "non-Virginian" northern Virginian multiple findraising appeals during her ill-fated run). I DO think money was a factor with low-info voters. But this margin seems too large to account for that.
        I don't think I was clear. I completely agree with your previous comment and this one.

        I think all the talk of this being a national referendum put the focus on what the Koch Brothers would do and what the DNC and the President would not do. The focus should have always been on what will the voters in Wisconsin do; what will Democrats in Wisconsin do.

        What needs to be examined is how and why Walker's strategy of divide and conquer seems to have prevailed.

        I remember being completely dumbfounded and bewildered in the days leading up to Schwarzneggars clear victory and I was hearing fellow Californians in support of the circus that our recall became. Gary Coleman for Governor? Seriously? Do you not realize that the rolling blackouts occurring in our state have everything to do with Enron's manipulation and nothing to do with the Democratic Governor you are recalling who is trying to fix the problem? Do you realize the car tax that he's raising helps fund essential services like fire prevention? Do you realize the superhero with business savvy that you want to elect ran Planet Hollywood into bankruptcy with two other celebrity Republicans?

        But you can't make people think when they're voting emotionally and intent on sending a message.

        Wisconsinites apparently wanted to send a message about recalls, public sector union benefits and keeping Wisconsin elections local.

        “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

        by FiredUpInCA on Tue Jun 05, 2012 at 11:37:29 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly what I was thinking (1+ / 0-)
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      as a Californian.

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