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  •  Bingo. (15+ / 0-)

    Every time we've stayed in the fight, even in the face of violence and terror, we've won. Every time.

    The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

    by lotusmaglite on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 10:08:55 AM PDT

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    •  As I read your diary, I thought of the early (4+ / 0-)
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      union organizers and strikers, who were beat up, run down, arrested, but were not destroyed.
      Thanks for the inspiring diary -- it's a good thing to remind people of what our fore-parents went through to achieve the rights we take for granted (except we're not taking them for granted anymore since they're endangered).
      Even though Emma Goldman was pretty violent, I identify with her passion and the strength of her commitment to her cause. So maybe I need to hang a pix of a bullwhip in my office as a reminder to not give up.

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:18:50 PM PDT

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      •  Think of Conservatives (5+ / 0-)

        Goldwater got beat BAD in 1964. Big joke, haha. But they kept working on their message and found ways to get it out there. The GOP won 5 of the next 6 Presidential elections.

        As a party they are using the tools they have, mainly BIG money. So we will just have to find OUR tools and make them work. WE have an advantage, we HELP people. Now we have to get that message out.

        I think getting mad is a good idea. But our success will come when we focus our anger where it belongs.

        Help! The GOP is NUTS (& the Dems need some!)

        by Tuba Les on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:38:05 PM PDT

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        •  agree completely. I heard a whole program on (4+ / 0-)
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          how the conservatives regrouped after that, how they pulled techniques they thought would be useful from the civil rights and anti-war movements, and of course they succeeded beyond our wildest fears.
          The money makes things particularly difficult, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep on fighting and keep on creating new methods.
          When Obama ran in 2008, he was using a more highly developed intertubes strategy based on what Dean had started. They were creative and it worked. We've got to keep on being creative.

          We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

          by Tamar on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 02:49:55 PM PDT

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      •  'beat up..' and (some) murdered (0+ / 0-)

        which still happens in other countries.

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