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  •  At the end of the day (3+ / 0-)

    Yesterday comes down to basically 5 things:

    1)  Many voters don't agree with recalls for anything short of verified criminal activity, and a few maybe not even then -- even if the voters in question very much ideologically disagree with the incumbent.  Those people stay home or even vote for the incumbent being recalled. Given that, you'd need to have massive support for it -- support that would almost definitely have to be fairly broadly bipartisan in scope in order to overcome that factor.

    2) Summer elections suck for getting the younger crowd to the polls.  It's "off-season", people are busy with other things on their mind, students are out of college and scattered across the landscape more focussed on landing a summer job to pay their bills or looking to land that post-graduation position.

    3) Money talks, and when a terrible candidate can outspend his opponent on the order of 10:1, it impacts people's perceptions.

    4) People have short memories/Time heals all wounds.  If the recall was held in the weeks after Walker went after the unions, he might've lost.  There is enough time and space between the actions that sparked the recalls and the election itself that people's passions over it cooled.  It also gave #3 time to have it's effect on people's perceptions.

    5)  When you throw a mediocre opponent into the mix given #1-4, you shouldn't be too surprised if you lose.

    •  Excuses, excuses. (1+ / 0-)
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      Republicans are confident, aggressive, and smart.  Democrats are tentative, self-doubting, and smart.  

      Who looks like the long-term winner to you?

      From Neocon to sane- thanks to Obama- and Kos.

      by satrap on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 06:56:38 AM PDT

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      •  Facts are excuses? (0+ / 0-)

        When you skim about 60% of your voters off the top because they don't agree with recalls in the first place, it's hard to win an election.

        There's a reason recalls are insanely difficult to pull off.  Recalling Walker was always a long shot from Day 1 because of that, the mere fact a recall election even took place was a long shot itself and the fact that any sitting legislators got successfully recalled, let alone multiple ones, is frankly amazing.

      •  No. (0+ / 0-)

        This person is performing analysis, using critical thinking.

        I would suggest you evaluate your adjectives.  "Confident, aggressive and smart"?  More like arrogant, destructive, hostile, and deceitful.

        What do you value?

        Long term?  Calm, humane, compassionate, and intelligent policies that work for the entire population will win out.  It may take a while, but I do believe in the better qualities of the human race.

        What I hope we avoid is the dystopia that Rethugs are trying to drive us through.

      •  Democrats are smart? (0+ / 0-)


        "I don't feel the change yet". Velma Hart

        by Superpole on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:28:11 AM PDT

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