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  •  If the mandate goes, it all goes. ACA can not (1+ / 0-)
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    function without the mandate.

    •  Maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      It might be amusing if the SCOTUS struck down just the mandate; they seem to be into apparent partial measures which turn out to have very serious effects (e.g. the non-precedent setting 2000 Gore decision and finding ways to avoid making a decision).  From their perspective, they will have killed the entire thing while maintaining the pretense of being minimally activist; the right wingers on the court are incredibly political these days.  

      But if they kill the individual mandate Congress then has to act to prevent private insurance companies from getting squeezed; that could force things to go towards a public option or even Medicare-For-All.  It seems like nothing happens in D.C. unless there's a crisis and the invalidation of the individual mandate create such a crisis.  But SCOTUS is going to do as it pleases and we are once again at the mercy of probably a single justice or two making a capricious decision.

      My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.—Carl Schurz
      Give 'em hell, Barry—Me

      by KingBolete on Wed Jun 06, 2012 at 08:13:46 AM PDT

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      •  The last thing they are going to attempt to do in (0+ / 0-)

        an election year is Medicare for all or single much as I would love for that to happen.  No way it is going to happen however.  If this is struck down now 90% chance they will just strike it down totally.

          However, if they do attempt to strike down just the mandate, ACA can't work.  So it will go back to the drawing board until after the elections, it will not be funded due to a bagger filled House, the states will fight it, states will sue, insurance companies will not comply etc......then most likely it will sit there until politicans are brave enough to touch the now super toxic health care issue once again.  Who know how long or how many election cycles from now.  It took almost 20 years from when Hillary tried last time.

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