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  •  Me too re this: (4+ / 0-)
    Me, I just hope to live long enough to see most of the old racist, bigoted fools die and leave the country in the hands of a younger more rational, less-religious, less-materially-greedy group of Americans.
    With the caveat being which younger (than me) generation.

    Living in the deep south, after decades of living many elsewheres, I find myself shocked by the opinions/mindsets/etal of many of the "younger than me" in this area.  Doesn't matter the demographics either.  

    Even scarier is to witness my own mid 30s-40 offspring become somewhat swayed by daily proximity (via workplace/community/radio talking heads) to what was alien in their own upbringing.  

    At least around my current here, the phrase of my own youth "Don't trust anyone over 30" keeps popping into my head.  

     I sound like an old fart-but the last 12+ years is the wierdest & scariest thing I've ever witnessed- seeing some of these youngsters become....akin to a sci fi movie I saw as a kid that scared the poo out of me where a little boy witnessed a space ship land & afterwards folks in the town suddenly started acting "differently"....

    I realize this does not hold true of every being in this age group but it is thought provoking when one seems surrounded by the phenomena.

    •  there's a friend of my daughter's who comes over (8+ / 0-)

      and he likes to argue (debate style), but he has obviously spent a lot of time listening to Fox News and a bunch of right-wing Internet nonsense.

      When I tried to talk to him recently about why I couldn't understand why the President and the Congress wouldn't institution direct hiring by the Federal Government to combat the weak economy with vigor, and noted that the clear and present evidence of "what the right thing to do to fight the Depression/Deep Recession is" can been found in FDR and the Democratic majority in the Congress and their conjoined response to the 20th century's worst economic downturn in the 1930's.

      His response was that I was using a single example and trying to make a theory out of it.

      When I told him that it wasn't my theory, but the one being championed by two Nobel Prize winning Economists (Joseph Stiglitz and Paul Krugman), he as much as went, "Meh."

      Then I told him to look up Recession on Wikipedia, and to read for himself that there have been a whole host of Recessions, starting in 1796 and re-occurring about once or twice a decade, endlessly. What got the economy going in most of those events? Direct Federal Government spending, mostly on Infrastructure, that's what. You might say that economic downturns were what truly built the great monuments to industry, the dams and bridges that span the the continent were mostly funded and designed in eras mired in economic woes. Just think of the bridges off Manhattan Island in NYC, the Golden Gate in San Francisco, the Hoover Dam.

      The WPA was charged with selecting projects that would make a real and lasting contribution — but would not vie with private firms. As it turned out, the "pump-priming" effect of federal projects actually stimulated private business during the Depression years. The WPA focused on tangible improvements: During its tenure, workers constructed 651,087 miles of roads, streets and highways; and built, repaired or refurbished 124,031 bridges, 125,110 public buildings, 8,192 parks, and 853 landing fields. In addition, workers cleaned slums, revived forests, and extended electrical power to rural locations.
      Hoover Dam, once known as Boulder Dam, is a concrete arch-gravity dam in the Black Canyon of the Colorado River, on the border between the US states of Arizona and Nevada. It was constructed between 1931 and 1936 during the Great Depression and was dedicated on September 30, 1935, by President Franklin Roosevelt. Its construction was the result of a massive effort involving thousands of workers, and cost over one hundred lives. The dam was controversially named in honor of President Herbert Hoover.
      He seems to think he's a progressive of some sort, but he is most certainly not. It's a conundrum for me. But I hardly believe that he is the only person under 30 who fits this description, or even the only one that I know personally.

      Which makes me haz a sad.


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      by Angie in WA State on Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 12:38:39 AM PDT

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      •  After President Obama was elected is when I (1+ / 0-)
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        really became aware of certain age groups literally repeating the same or similar memes.  All started with our semi annual HVAC maintenance....

        The -so much younger than me- HVAC dude must have spotted my Obama GOTV & post election stuff scattered around our office cause the next thing we knew this young man started talking.  And talking.  And talking.

        I've only heard G. Beck once (captive audience at in- laws)much to my never ending horror at the disjointed, dramatic verbiage he spewed forth.

        Ditto with this young HVAC dude.  Not matter what factoid we nicely countered with there was barely a pause before subject matter was swiftly changed.

        In my lifetime there have been mind control cults-during my long ago youth- one in particular that necessitated deprogrammers (& body guards) for some rescued.  A friend was one rescued.  I swear, this HVAC dude reminded me of someone robotically repeating memes...or a member of one of those long ago cults.

        Made me aghast & curious enough to start really paying attention for the past few years.  Because of his age.

        While there is a lot of socio-economic diversity,non native transplants & ever growing multi cultural presence that gives me hope around here- churchs & good ole boy community are mega influences that appear firmly entrenched.

        So, I sorta expect certain mindsets from born & bred natives of a certain age.  With the diversity & multi cultural explosion over the past 20+ years, I just did not expect the youth to be exact clones of their parents.

        Gives me more than a sad.  Scares the poo out of me.  

         20 or so age difference between uber lib & uber conservative=a 60's-70 redux for me.  Mindblowing.

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