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  •  It's not clear who was firing, no (2+ / 0-)

    It's also not clear who is commiting these fortuitously timed massacres against pro-government civilians, but I could guess. When there's regime change to be had, facts don't matter.

    The UN is completely useless if not complicit in these careless implications of who is doing what.

    •  The situation is rapidly escalating into a civil (0+ / 0-)

      war.

      UN chief warns of ‘imminent’ threat of Syrian civil war
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      "The danger of a civil war is imminent and real," he said, adding that "terrorists are exploiting the chaos."
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      Earlier in the day, speaking to the 15-nation Security Council, Ban said hopes for success of Annan s peace bid were fading and suggested that the United Nations must soon decide whether its 300-member monitoring mission in Syria was sustainable or useful, U.N. diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

      It was the first time the U.N. leader floated the idea of pulling the plug on the observer mission, which many countries had hoped could help end 15 months of violence.

      Annan also warned that the Syrian crisis was already "in sort of a civil war."

      "All efforts are being made to ensure that if it were to become a full blown civil war it doesn t spread to the neighbors," Annan said.

      •  What do you call it now, slaughter? (0+ / 0-)

        Assad and his thugs have been killing Syrians for 16 months now and they have done it with tanks, 120mm guns, 260mm mortars, and helo gunships.

        That's called a slaughter. When the people start fighting back, that's called civil war. Thats what worries Annan and you, that people have started to fight back.

        Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

        by Clay Claiborne on Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 07:23:16 AM PDT

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        •  There has been escalating violence from both sides (0+ / 0-)

          since the very beginning. External forces have been supplying arms and men. This has been well documented.

          Many atrocities and suicide bombings now taking place have the signature of Islamist radicals from Iraq.

          Notice the date of the following.

          Syrian connection: Baghdad bombings show a growing al Qaeda influence
          February 22, 2012

          There is a Bulgarian proverb that says "grab opportunity by the beard, for it is bald behind". That is exactly what alqaeda is doing these days in both Syria and Iraq. Al-Qaeda found an unprecedented intersection of opportunities in Syria's increasing sectarian violence - as it did in Iraq -, the Assad regime's animosity with the West, and the American withdrawal from Iraq.

          Since the Syrian revolution started in March last year, the violent repression has radicalized every bit of it. Even Syrian intellectuals in the opposition now say that common sense has thinned down. The Arab Digest has been reporting for months on the increasingly Sectarianism of the Free Syrian Army; the prominence of Islamists in FSA ranks.
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          Earlier this month, the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he believed Al-Qaeda in Iraq had infiltrated Syrian opposition groups, and was behind bombings in Damascus and Aleppo. The New York Times also reported that Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, put it during Senate testimony on Tuesday, “Those who would like to foment a Sunni-Shia standoff — and you know who they are — are all weighing in in Syria.

          When the people start fighting back, that's called civil war.  Thats what worries Annan and you, that people have started to fight back.
          No. A civil war is when villages and towns start attacking one another with clubs, knives or any other weapon they can get a hold of.
          Sectarian Strife in City Bodes Ill for All of Syria
          By ANTHONY SHADID
          Published: November 19, 2011

          BEIRUT, Lebanon — A harrowing sectarian war has spread across the Syrian city of Homs this month, with supporters and opponents of the government blamed for beheadings, rival gangs carrying out tit-for-tat kidnappings, minorities fleeing for their native villages, and taxi drivers too fearful of drive-by shootings to ply the streets.
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          As it descends into sectarian hatred, Homs has emerged as a chilling window on what civil war in Syria could look like, just as some of Syria’s closest allies say the country appears to be heading in that direction. A spokesman for the Syrian opposition last week called the killings and kidnappings on both sides “a perilous threat to the revolution.”

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