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  •  I don't think we can say that the money did anyway (0+ / 0-)

    They spent $40 million and didn't improve their margin over the 2010 election.

    •  LOL... That was not the Goal (0+ / 0-)

      The Koch's, etc., spent millions in 2010 flipping nine formerly dem governor seats to repuglican, including getting Walker elected in WI.

      of course they're not going to stand by and do nothing regarding the recall. they've got to defend their "investment".

      BTW, margins don't matter. If Barrett had won by the same margin, I doubt anyone here would bring it up.

      "I don't feel the change yet". Velma Hart

      by Superpole on Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 07:21:59 AM PDT

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      •  Margins do matter (1+ / 0-)
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        $40 million dollars later, they were back to where they were in the beginning. All of the outside spending got Walker 205,509 more votes in 2012 than in 2010. Barrett got 158,482 more with far less money. Walker was going to win regardless. When the majority of your electorate doesn't agree with the premise of a recall election from the beginning you are going to lose anyway. The $40 million didn't change opinions.

        •  About voters against recalls (0+ / 0-)

          . . . to be clear, that was not true "from the beginning."

          Questioning of the premise of recalls did not emerge as a major (or even much of a minor) issue last year.  I'm in the district that was targeted the most last year, deluged with tv ads and literature and more.  The issue did not come up.

          This issue was the message of many ads this year by Walker, Kochs, et al., this year that blanketed the state.  And, clearly, it worked.  That is, I think that you are wrong in stating that "$40 million didn't change opinions."  Looks like it did on this point.

          What was needed was testing of the impact of Walker's ads for months and months before the recall campaign even (officially) began, as we now can see -- ain't hindsight lovely -- to tailor Dem ads to counter that message.

          But to have a governor win with a campaign that attacks our state constitution on this?  That has to be intriguing.

          "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

          by Cream City on Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 12:53:45 PM PDT

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    •  It doesn't matter that they didn't improve... (0+ / 0-)

      ...their margin. They won and that's what counts.

      After all the rancor and heart-ache that Wisconsinites have gone through as a result of Walker's policies, starting with his hidden agenda of union-busting, you would think that he should have lost votes simply for being a tyrant unwilling to compromise.

      I still say that all of the money that was poured into negative advertising demonizing the unions and lying about Walker's record is what kept him in office.

      The danger is in thinking that Obama is sitting pretty in Wisconsin. Once the negative commercials start we'll see his numbers shift. I only hope that we have enough to balance things out.

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