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    Starship Troopers is not fascist. Franchise had to be earned, but everyone could try, and you could only fail by quitting or being kicked out for clearly defined things. The only thing that citizens could do that non-citizens could not was wield force on behalf of the State. And, yes,that includes voting. Voting is an exercise of force.

    As a thought experiment, out has its good and bad points, but fascist it clearly is not.

    --Shannon

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
    "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

    by Leftie Gunner on Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 10:21:17 AM PDT

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    •  That depends on your definition of fascism. (0+ / 0-)

      An authoritarian, militarized state where the population is divided into citizens and noncitizens seems pretty close to my definition, but that's up for debate.

      Still: just because he wrote about this kind of government as a thought experiment, doesn't mean that he thinks it's a good thing.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 02:49:03 PM PDT

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      •  authoritarian? (0+ / 0-)

        Not at all. Granted, little of that society outside of the military context is described in detail, but the little of it you can see seemed fairly free.

        --Shannon

        "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
        "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

        by Leftie Gunner on Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 04:53:32 PM PDT

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        •  Corporal Punishment isn't a hallmark of a free (0+ / 0-)

          society. Neither is holding family members responsible for their relative's actions.

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 05:36:32 PM PDT

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