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  •  but they don't (0+ / 0-)

    contracting out services almost always costs more in the short term, and a LOT more in the long run.

    all morals are relative, but some are more relative than others.

    by happymisanthropy on Sat Jun 09, 2012 at 09:46:13 AM PDT

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    •  Why do... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...successful private companies outsource various functions all the time then? They enjoy throwing money away?

      There are pharma drug development companies that are literally one guy (heard about this on NPR). Literally everything is outsourced and the one guy spends his day on the phone with contractors making sure things are running smoothly.

      Or consider a tiny town with a few people in it. Does it make sense to run and staff its own fire department with the horrendous costs involved? Or just go to the town next door and say "hey, we'll pay you to cover our town with your fire department?".

      I submit that it is impossible to make definitive statements about whether contracting as a whole is a good idea or not a good idea. It is very situation dependent.

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      by Sparhawk on Sat Jun 09, 2012 at 10:02:10 AM PDT

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      •  Outsourcing as a whole (1+ / 0-)
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        I submit that it is possible to make such an assertion with the stipulation that most tasks better done by private contractors have in fact been done by private contractors for decades.

        all morals are relative, but some are more relative than others.

        by happymisanthropy on Sat Jun 09, 2012 at 10:58:46 AM PDT

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      •  Some small towns organize (2+ / 0-)
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        volunteer fire departments. But that's neither here nor there. Your small town looking to outsource a police department, say... would they go to the nearest county or municipal police or sheriffs department, or would they contract with Blackwater or the Pinkertons? I think it's pretty clear that no actual town (I don't include incorporated 1% gated enclaves here) has ever gone with private security companies for their police needs.  

        happymisanthropy is right: ideologically driven outsourcing (of the GOP/Tea Party variety) is rarely or never cost effective. Sure, it's situation dependent: sometimes rational actors project a savings from using private services, so they do that. But in case you haven't noticed, the Tea Party/GOP is no longer rational. Hasn't been for a while.

        "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

        by Orinoco on Sat Jun 09, 2012 at 11:13:43 AM PDT

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