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  •  I am very very pro Labor and pro teacher (4+ / 0-)
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    Midwest Meg, Keith930, belzaboo, rcnewton

    but I agree with the poster who said "bad optics" and I don't think this will be received well.

    Sometimes you have to pick your battles and that includes the timing of the battles as well as the substance of the battles.  I think the CTU is creating their own Charge of the Light Brigade.

    This will be Rahm's equivalent of Reagan firing the air traffic controllers. He's probably giddy with excitement over that prospect - Watch! I'm a Democrat and I can fire and dismantle unions along with the best of them! Not to mention that we already know that he's a giant advocate of privatization and charter schools. Talk about playing right into his hands!

    How dumb can the CTU be?

    Here we have a Fox News article by Juan Williams (Yes! you should read it so you can see how Rahm is actually being lionized by the right for his anti-teacher union stance) that is illustrative in oh so many ways:

    On the HOnor Roll---Chris
    Christie and Rahm Emmanuel Fight For Better Teachers and Schools

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:34:10 PM PDT

    •  Ah yes. Standing up to a bully is being labeled (2+ / 0-)
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      as dumb by someone who claims to be pro labor.  No wonder progressives never get anywhere.  So many are so willing to roll over and give up if the optics might be bad.  No idea of standing up and fighting and making the optics good.  Nope.  Just a determination that others should accept breadcrumbs - or rather get fewer breadcrumbs in exchange for more work - rather than standing with our brothers and sisters and fighting together for a change.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 02:22:17 AM PDT

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      •  We'll see how this turns out. (1+ / 0-)
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        I hope the teachers win and that the people of Chicago stand behind them and that Rahm's anti- teacher, anti-public school agendas are left in smoking ruins.

        There is a lot at play here. I have read a fair amount of what is going on in Chicago, because I think it's the template and the laboratory for the whole privatization, charter school movement by people who see this as a great source of public funds to be milked for private profit. And Arne Duncan is a huge part of it as is Rahm Emmanuel. I think it's easy to predict that if there is a strike that big pro-charter bucks will come in and start a gigantic campaign to turn public opinion against the "greedy" bad teachers and this strike will give them that opening.

        I saw Rahm n morning Joe yesterday and he was beating the shortest school day in the country drum and the what about the kids tambourine.

        Now let's go back to the strategery part of all this.

        From my reading I know that Rahm has a plan to close 100 public schools and replace them with 60 charters within the next five years. 100 schools is approximately 25% of Chicago Public schools. The head of the Chicago Teacher's Union said in an interview in February that Rahm told her he thinks 25% of the city's students are a waste of time and money, which he denies ever saying.

        Knowing these facts, would you say that a strike will help Rahm or advance Rahm's scenario? Remember HIS goal is to close schools. Should the teachers be closing them for him to pave the way?

        If the teachers DO decide to strike, while pay is important , it's pretty far down on the list of things they should be presenting to the public as their reason for striking. To me the better choice is focusing on the fact that Rahm wants to eliminate tenure and higher pay for advanced degrees and tie pay to test performance - those things actually strike at the teacher's very existence and longevity and yet all we hear about is a 30% pay increase.

        I hate to see the teachers possibly put themselves in a position that will advance the agenda against them. It doesn't have anything at all to do with "rolling over" it has to do with playing the hand you're dealt and knowing what cards are left in the deck.

        The major thing on the teacher's side is Rahm's own unlikeability factor plus the fact that CPS has been on the front burner for a long time and the people of Chicago are pretty well informed. They know a lot better than the rest of us that the Chicago Miracle which is Duncan's claim to fame is pretty much a complete sham.

        If they do strike they have to go all out, take no prisoners and make it about Rahm and his anti-public school agenda and NOT about their pay increase.

        If they do strike, I wouldn't expect to see President Obama putting his sneakers on and walking on this particular picket line.

        “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

        by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 06:09:49 AM PDT

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    •  so you're not REALLY pro union (1+ / 0-)
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      or proteacher.

      If he fires the teachers, he will bring total chaos onto the Chicago school system.  Who would teach there?  Those who can't get hired ANY WHERE else.   Think about it.

      I love how so called liberals need to call out there credentials when they badmouth teacher's unions.  

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