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  •  Actually, it has been definitively documented (0+ / 0-)

    that for many, healthcare will remain "unaffordable" even after the ACA and even WITH subsidies because premiums, deductibles,co-pays and out-of pockets can still reach close to 20% of family income.

    This is still more than enough to drive many people into medically induced bankruptcy , but which fact is just shoved under the carpet for the time being with a "be grateful for what we got" admonishment. The people hardest hit will remain the working poor, a large number of which are older women, who make too much to qualify for Medicaid but too little to pay for private insurance. This group will probably still fall between the cracks.

    Supposedly, once we establish this, we will realize that there is a problem and then we will go back and address it at some later time, too bad some people will have to die or go bankrupt in the meantime.

    This is no different from the high risk pools in place right now. Yes, they absolutely are saving lives for the people who can afford them, but there are others, once again the working poor, for whom they are still out of reach.

    ACA was an improvement, but in terms of addressing all the actual problems and situations - not even close. But, even I, a rather fierce critic of ACA,  DO NOT want to see its incremental advances dismantled by the idiotic and heartless Republicans.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 02:00:15 PM PDT

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    •  Agreed. Some won't be able to afford it (1+ / 0-)
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      HeyMikey
      Under Obamacare, nobody will be denied health insurance because they can't afford it.
      The government will tell you whether or not you can afford it. You'll have to give up healthy food and maybe move to a cheaper place but the insurance companies must have your business.
      •  Obamacare doesn't cover everybody, either. (1+ / 0-)
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        The diarist said:

        something that would (a) "make sure that every American has access to good health care"...Well, that's exactly what Obamacare does.
        Nope. Low-income people who don't qualify for Medicaid will be "allowed" to "opt out" of the mandate to buy insurance. What an Orwellian obscenity.

        Yet, Obamacare is obviously a major advance over the status quo. And I will vote for Obama and the Dems as the Lesser Evil. And I will damn sure turn out to vote.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 07:07:27 PM PDT

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    •  Existing high-risk pools are much more expensive (1+ / 0-)
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      and they always will be, because the pool is smaller and it's 100% people with health issues serious enough to make other insurance unobtainable or unaffordable. The advantage of ACA is that it's a much bigger pool and it's not all sick people. Plus it is subsidized. So it's going to be a much better option for covering those with pre-existing conditions, assuming it doesn't get yanked away by the Court this month. (It is true however it is less good for those who are uninsured now, not seeing a doctor, and having a new cost for insurance on their budget. They are having their cost increase, for no immediate benefit, but with the promise of future coverage. And in the long run, we are all in deep trouble if the rate of increase in premiums does not abate).

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