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    •  Ok, you at least provide some sources, (2+ / 0-)
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      but look at the dates on many of them. And cherry-picked. The Daily Mail is a tabloid, and in another source I would not base an entire industry on what a coal barge operator says. He is saying how the amount of coal has dramatically decreased, and that's a good thing for the environment, but I doubt he reads the numbers published on the exact breakdown of energy production, import and export that you can find here:

      http://www.bdew.de/...(2011)_23012012.pdf

      or here:
      http://www.ag-energiebilanzen.de/...

      „Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren.“ - Bertolt Brecht

      by translatorpro on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 09:48:11 AM PDT

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      •  Check the figures on the comparative cost of (0+ / 0-)

        electricity in Germany, then get back to me.  It's up and continues to rise.

        You don't need to firebomb Dresden to prove that you can fly the plane.

        by SpamNunn on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 12:57:21 PM PDT

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        •  A kilowatt-hour of electricity in Germany costs (0+ / 0-)

          almost 29 cents. The average price of a kilowatt-hour in the US is 12.8 cents.  

          You can look it up.  

          We don't need to double our electrical energy production costs in a down economy.  

          You don't need to firebomb Dresden to prove that you can fly the plane.

          by SpamNunn on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 01:03:06 PM PDT

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        •  You are changing the subject. (1+ / 0-)
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          You said above that

          They make up their shortfall by buying nuke generated power from France.
          Nothing you posted supports that. You didn't show anything that supports your claim of a "shortfall", and offered no sources to support your claim that Germany make up that alleged "shortfall" with nuclear power from France.
           Fail.
          The only shortfall you dug up was related to an exceptional situation, was of short duration and happened at the tail end of a record cold snap, when France was IMPORTING from Germany much of that time. You conveniently left that little factoid out and neglected to mention this diary on THAT VERY TOPIC, and which you yourself  commented in on February 9th:
          The German Spiegel Online Magazine is reporting that France - with its 59 nuclear reactors - is currently having to import up to 7 GW of electricity a day, with 3 GW of that coming from a Germany that just switched off half of its nuke plants.
          http://www.dailykos.com/...
          Here is another article and very informative video on that cold snap and how Germany saved France's bacon in that frigid weather:
          http://cleantechnica.com/...
          When a deadly cold wave brought the fossil- and nuclear-dominated energy system of France close to collapse, German PV solar kept many gas- and oil-fired power plants offline, which significantly lowered the spot-prices at the European Energy Exchange.
          Source: Clean Technica (http://s.tt/...)

          Your "proof" is garbage, you know it and you are being deliberately misleading and bending facts to suit your narrative. Just ugh.

          „Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren.“ - Bertolt Brecht

          by translatorpro on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 02:58:27 PM PDT

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