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  •  Does it really matter? (2+ / 0-)
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    Kurt Sperry, mookins

    Given what we've seen so far, it's not a stretch to believe that the rulers in Bahrain would act just like Assad if they had to.

    “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

    by 420 forever on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:05:07 AM PDT

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    •  So you rely on imagination to make your point! (2+ / 0-)
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      OIL GUY, Lawrence

      That means you don't have an actual point.

      Romney '12: Bully for America!

      by Rich in PA on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:24:19 AM PDT

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      •  There's no need for imagination here. (2+ / 0-)
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        chipmo, mookins

        The crackdowns against regime opponents  (which as of a couple of days ago includes jailing an 11 year old boy for participating in an "illegal gathering") are well documented.

        “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

        by 420 forever on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:37:06 AM PDT

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        •  Are you compairng the holding of an 11 yr old for (0+ / 0-)

          trial to this:

          Your defense of Assad is indeed shameless. You make my point about such comparisons in spades.

          Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

          by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:54:41 AM PDT

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          •  Uhh... no I'm not (2+ / 0-)
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            chipmo, mookins

            And seriously, enough with this shit:

            Your defense of Assad is indeed shameless.

            “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett

            by 420 forever on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:56:27 AM PDT

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          •  There's evidence that indicates you are wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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            And you know that.

            "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

            by BigAlinWashSt on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 11:02:36 AM PDT

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            •  What evidence? (0+ / 0-)

              I've heard speculation by pro-Assad forces that the 80% killed at close range may not have been killed by Assad, but this operation, like the Houla massacre, was started with a Syrian government artillery barge and there is plenty of evidence for that.

              And while we are on the subject of THIS dairy [as oppose to the pro-Assad smoke machines]

              WHO DO YOU THINK IS ATTACKING CIVILIANS WITH HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS IN SYRIA? Assad's government or the ATG [armed terrorist gangs] See poll below.

              Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

              by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 11:27:32 AM PDT

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          •  YouTube communications strategy as "brilliant". (0+ / 0-)
            'Shades Of Grey'- Rethinking The Houla Massacre
            June 13, 2012
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            Williams added: ‘stories are never black and white - often shades of grey. Those opposed to President Assad have an agenda. One senior Western official went as far as to describe their YouTube communications strategy as "brilliant". But he also likened it to so-called "psy-ops", brainwashing techniques used by the US and other military to convince people of things that may not necessarily be true. A healthy scepticism is one of the essential qualities of any journalist - never more so than in reporting conflict. The stakes are high - all may not always be as it seems.’
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            Williams added: ‘stories are never black and white - often shades of grey. Those opposed to President Assad have an agenda. One senior Western official went as far as to describe their YouTube communications strategy as "brilliant". But he also likened it to so-called "psy-ops", brainwashing techniques used by the US and other military to convince people of things that may not necessarily be true. A healthy scepticism is one of the essential qualities of any journalist - never more so than in reporting conflict. The stakes are high - all may not always be as it seems.’
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            Danahar added:

            ‘Members of the international community in Damascus say that, contrary to initial reports, most of the people in Houla were killed by gunfire spraying the rooms, not by execution-style killings with a gun placed to the back of the head. Also, people's throats were not cut, although one person did have an eye gouged out.’

            These were crucial new claims challenging key aspects of the consensus on Houla - the media had been as one in reporting as established fact the horrific cutting of children’s throats, for example.
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    •  Does it really matter? (1+ / 0-)
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      Lawrence

      Whether someone is murdered or might have been murdered under different circumstances.

      Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

      by Clay Claiborne on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 10:48:58 AM PDT

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    •  Uh... you're seriously trying to tell me that (0+ / 0-)

      there's no difference between people actually being slaughtered and people maybe/possibly being killed?

      That's a pretty sick attitude to have.

      And not exactly progressive or liberal or caring in my book.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 04:05:32 PM PDT

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