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  •  I read in same Guardian article, I think,... (26+ / 0-)

    That he never got as close to Murdoch as Thatcher or Cameron because he thought his papers were shite. That made me kinda like him.

    I ♥ President Barack Obama.

    by ericlewis0 on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:27:10 PM PDT

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    •  LOL. That's fairly cool. (14+ / 0-)

      Maybe I'm picking up on a sort of intellectualism in Major? Or maybe he just has good taste.

      of course, Tony Blair is actually insanely smart; I once turned on NPR and heard this British guy talking about Israel's relationship to the Middle East and thought:  Jeez, this guy is really smart!--and then, shock of shocks, I found out it was Blair!

      See, the thing is, I always disrespected him b/c he had his head so far up George W. Bush's butt he couldn't see daylight.  At least Chirac had the decency to try and maintain some independence from the asshole.

      I really find that "I'm the head of the free world, you will bow down before me!" stuff obnoxious, and Blair was just Bush's hand puppet.

      Being ignored is the difference between being a one percenter and an American.--sweeper

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Jun 13, 2012 at 08:54:26 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's because (5+ / 0-)

      he was never really one of the London in-crowd.

      He's from Huntingdon, not really far from anything but not really part of it either. And AFAIK he never really lived in London, except when he had to as PM.

      My sister lives in Huntingdon, has for years. She's run into him or his family a few times.

      He's kinda the Joe Biden of British politics. Served for a zillion years, never really became part of it, took the train back and forth, never got really rich, etc.

      •  Not entirely true (2+ / 0-)
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        Before John Major was MP for Huntingdon he had been a Conservative Councillor in the London Borough of Lambeth, an ethnically diverse area of South London.

        However he does have an unusual background for a Conservative leader. His parents had been circus artistes, before founding a garden gnome manufacturing business.

        This leads to the jibe that Major was the only person to run away from the circus to become an accountant. Actually he worked for a bank, before he went into politics.

        He rose quite fast as a protege of Margaret Thatcher but was not really "one of us" ideologically.

        His public image was of a decent man, but of mediocre talents and limited imagination. He did tend to look back to an older, more rural England as a devotee of cricket rather than the more urban sport of soccer, which his successors have to at least pretend to enjoy. However he probably was the sanest and least obsessive of the last five Prime Ministers.

        One other feature which came out after Major was PM, was that he had had an affair with Edwina Currie, a flamboyant fellow Conservative MP. He might not have survived politically if that fact had become public knowledge before he retired from politics. Presumably Murdoch did not have the information about this affair, when he was trying to influence the Major government's policy.

        There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

        by Gary J on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 02:50:55 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe I overstated (1+ / 0-)
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          I did the above from memory, so I may have exaggerated some of the fables. The reference to circus performers was widespread when Major was politically prominent, but the Wikipedia article just refers to his father being a music hall performer.

          It is also confirmed that John Major was born in Sutton, a part of South London. His early political career was in Greater London and he only seems to have moved to Huntingdon when selected as a prospective Parliamentary candidate (which is not too unusual in Britain, which does not have a strong tradition of objecting to candidates because they come from other parts of the country).

          There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

          by Gary J on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 03:03:28 PM PDT

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          •  When he got to be leader (2+ / 0-)
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            he was basically a compromise candidate, as most of the major figures in the party were thinking that they were going to lose the next election, the party was torn apart by factionalism and none of the major figures thought they should risk leaping in to grab the top seat just to be dropped into the dustbin of history at the election.

            Major was senior enough to get the job, and they would all resume their battle while reorganising out of office, and out of the public eye so much.

            But he went and won the election, leaving the so calleed "Big beasts" to fight out in public while their world went to hell around them.

            Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

            by ceebs on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 03:59:32 PM PDT

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          •  no (1+ / 0-)
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            no overstatement, circus acrobat, Vaudeville theatre manager and mercenary.  Theres a comic strip presents comedy film that they occasionally trot out on election night which  had  the 92 election retold where Majors family circus is failing so he has to sneak out at night to perform in disguise as a clown from Downing street. Bizzarely Strike!  their film about what happens hen Hollywood decides to make a film about the 1980's Miners strike with excess  had actors one playing Al Pachino as Arthur Scargil, the miners Leader, and one of the Actresses playing Meryl Streep playing Margret Thatcher. at the time it seemed so over the top as to be untrue. after last years film it seems sort of prescient.

            Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

            by ceebs on Thu Jun 14, 2012 at 08:09:10 PM PDT

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