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  •  You didn't learn anything from the 2010 election. (1+ / 0-)
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    I have seen a lot of articles posted lately by political insiders that I trust, and they say the race is a dead heat and that the loyalists of both parties have made their decision and all the information says the vote is pretty much an even split. The block of voters that both parties are desperately trying to win now represent about 8% of the voters, and unfortunately for the Democrats, most of them say they are very unhappy with the President's performance. Many of them are former Democrats who have registered as Independents, and most of them say they are willing to sit out this election. That is why the Democrats in California are freaking out.

    I, on the other hand, am trying to get Progressives to pressure this president to start acting in the best interest of his constituents. My hope is that he will see the light before it is too late and do the right thing so we can win this election. I agree with Van Jones; Wisconsin was a wake up call for Democrats, but guess what? They aren't listening, just like they didn't listen in 2010.

    The Democrats have become so myopic they don't realize what lies ahead for our party if they don't push Obama further to the left. Let's say he wins this election and then he implements the policies that most insiders say he is going to push after the election, namely, placing Social Security and Medicare on the bargaining table, approving the Keystone pipeline, and allowing the unions to go under...what do you think will happen in 2014? Can't the President read the polls that say only 12% of the people in this nation want to see cuts made to our safety net programs? And who will get the blame if the environment suddenly turns to shit? The Democrats had better start solving some problems now or they might never be a true political force again. And the time to do it is now, not after the election.

    And those of you who keep saying we're abetting the Republicans by complaining: do you really think they don't know what is going on? Do you truly believe they don't read newspaper comment sections and progressive blogs enough to know that millions of members of the Democratic base are unhappy with this administration?

    •  Don't you try and tell me, or anyone else, (8+ / 0-)

      we haven't learned anything.

      And again, are you seriously suggesting that liberals and progressives won't vote in 2012 and let the GOP win?  What a crock of shit.

      36, MD-8 (MD-6 after 2012) resident, NOVA raised, Euro/Anglophile Democrat

      by Mike in MD on Sat Jun 16, 2012 at 09:49:42 PM PDT

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      •  Read this: (0+ / 0-)
        WASHINGTON -- Since mid-April, the average price for a gallon of regular gasoline has dropped nearly 40 cents. President Barack Obama has announced support for same-sex marriage. Government statisticians have delivered two disappointing monthly jobs reports. Tensions have ebbed and flowed with Iran. And Mitt Romney has clinched the Republican presidential nomination.

        And the presidential polls? Flat-lined.

        Contradicting reams of punditry, national polls have not moved an inch amid those events -- not to mention the lesser political battles that have animated cable news programs. In Gallup's daily polling, to take one example, Romney and Obama were tied 46%-46% on April 11. Two months later, the poll had Obama up one point, 46%-45%, a statistically identical result. For more than seven weeks, neither candidate's standing has moved more than 3 percentage points -- well within the poll's margin of error.

        Instead of a race, the campaign for president has turned into something more closely resembling trench warfare: dug-in armies, intense exchanges of fire, no movement.

        The lack of movement is problematic for Obama. Both candidates, of course, would like to have broken free by now. But for Romney, just keeping Obama below 50% counts as an advantage, on the assumption that a majority of late deciders are more likely to vote against the incumbent.

        As you see, the margin for winning this race comes down to about 8% of the vote, and like I said, it doesn't favor Obama. You can scream at me all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.
    •  I've talked to a number of such folks where I am (3+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, buffie, keetz4

      I live in Madison, and there are plenty of True Progressives in this town. Yes, there is a lot of discontent with Obama here, especially over foreign policy, and he might not have as many canvassers here as he would have if he were more liberal, but nobody I've talked to wants to punish Obama by staying home. One person I canvassed with said she though BO would go to Hell for drone assassinations, but that she would definitely vote for him nevertheless.

      As for learning from June 5 here in Wisconsin, that was emphatically NOT the result of progressives staying home. Minority turnout was very high, and many downtown wards in Madison had upper-nineties turnout. The problem was that rural voters felt the recall was unjustified. These voters are genuine independents, not reluctant progressives like you seem to imply are the problem. There is no phantom reservoir of votes on the left side of the political spectrum. And, by the way, the recall was always about Walker, not Obama.

      Finally, this is five months before an election. Obama can try to make a few policy changes, but a radical new agenda right before the election would be a horrible idea on the face of it. First, he has a campaign to run, and that takes a good deal of effort. Second, he needs to project confidence, not panic. Thirdly, the GOP will work extra hard to scuttle anything he does immediately before an election.

      Male, 21, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02, remorseless supporter of Walker's recall. Pocan for Congress and Baldwin for Senate!

      by fearlessfred14 on Sat Jun 16, 2012 at 10:29:01 PM PDT

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    •  I can't really blame him for not doing enough (7+ / 0-)

      When people like you don't give him credit for anything.

      "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

      by conspiracy on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 03:37:04 AM PDT

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    •  Once you start with an absurd premise (0+ / 0-)

      that the race is a dead heat, that renders the rest of comments just anti-reality speculating.

      Obama has a huge lead at this point.  There is no logical way to dispute that.  All he needs is to win CO or VA or OH to win the elections, and in all those states he has a pretty consistent lead.  Add that Obama can also win with any of FL, MO, IN, NC, and Romney faces very long odds.

      Anyone who wants to bet Romney straight up is still free to say so.

      Mr. Gorbachev, establish an Electoral College!

      by tommypaine on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 01:20:40 PM PDT

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