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  •  We said that in WI (3+ / 0-)
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    and we got our ass handed to us.

    Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
    ¡Boycott Arizona!

    by litho on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 10:21:41 AM PDT

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    •  Not entirely (12+ / 0-)

      The State Senate got turned.  It didn't fix the problem, not by a long shot, but it did slow the bleeding.

      Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden 8/10/09)

      by Land of Enchantment on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 10:29:04 AM PDT

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      •  The State Senate will not meet again (7+ / 0-)

        before the November elections, so Lehman's apparent victory (remember that Wangaard is challenging the results) has zero practical effect. The only chance progressives have now in WI is an indictment, and while that remains a distinct possibility there's no real way to predict whether it will happen.

        At the moment the GOP has all the momentum and the lying scum governor is basking in his national reputation of conservative rock star.

        Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
        ¡Boycott Arizona!

        by litho on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 10:43:24 AM PDT

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        •  Correct, because Snotty won't call (4+ / 0-)

          a special session because HE would get his a$$ handed to him now.

          The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion. Molly Ivins

          by MufsMom on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 11:16:12 AM PDT

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        •  Horsecrap (5+ / 0-)
          The State Senate will not meet again... ...before the November elections, so Lehman's apparent victory (remember that Wangaard is challenging the results) has zero practical effect.
          The practical effect is that Walker - who said openly he intended to do this - will not be able to call special sessions of the legislature to illegally ram more of his horrible agenda through. This becomes even more important if in fact he does get indicted, since he would want to shovel as much of his agenda out there as he could before he was taken down.

          This is why Walker's defeat of Barrett didn't mean the Republicans won in the Recall Elections. They lost the Senate and lost the ability to continue their depredations. The Recall was something of a tradeoff. Nobody won or lost big.

          Also, there is an election in November, and that doesn't automatically mean the Republicans retake the Senate. There were many people who plan to vote for the President who also voted in opposition to the Recall. That is, these are Democrats and Independents who skew to the Democratic side who just didn't like the Recall. Well, November isn't a recall. There is every reason to believe the Democrats hold onto the majority.

          The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

          by lotusmaglite on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 07:14:10 PM PDT

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          •  But it still is a future event. (0+ / 0-)

            So certainty is not warranted.  I would tell you that rather than simply believe we will keep the majority, we should work our asses off to make sure nothing is left to chance.

            Simple question: In the years since Republicans successfully urged the disempowering of workers and unions in the Midwest, what has happened to those states economies?

            by Stephen Daugherty on Mon Jun 18, 2012 at 08:28:31 AM PDT

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