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  •  No Northerner makes the argument (0+ / 0-)

    that racism doesn't happen here. That's a strawman.

    Southerners only have strawmen, because underneath, they know their cultures are overall, more racist than those in the North or the West.

    The South is awfully racist, statistically. There are areas of the North that are too, but not really Minnesota. Overall, Minnesota isn't that racist. Just parts of it.

    There are always areas where there's racism in every state, it's just a greyscale as to how much that really defines the state.

    See the rankings below. Minnesota does quite well. The South doesn't.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/...

    •  You'll find plenty of racists in the north (4+ / 0-)
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      grover, rgjdmls, chira2, Kitsap River

      To offer one example, Dave Neiwert has illustrated chronic and ongoing racism in the Pacific Northwest in a series of excellent books.   I certainly have heard Northerners making the claim that racism is a Southern issue.  From my own experience, some of the most overtly racist people I ever met were good Italian Democrats in New Haven, CT.

      •  Some of the insidious racism I've ever seen was (3+ / 0-)
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        samanthab, chira2, Kitsap River

        In the PNW.

        But a look at the history of the Oregon Territory and Oregon state in particular might help explain why Portland and Seattle are two if the whitest cities in the country, and why racism are in the PNW's social DNA.

        Oregon State did not ratify the 15th amendment until 1959. So it's hard to argue this is ancient history done by pioneering folks struggling to survive. These are current OR citizens who left it unratified for over half  of the last  century.

        http://www.blackpast.org/...

        http://usslave.blogspot.com/...

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 12:43:49 AM PDT

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      •  Northern California (0+ / 0-)

        And up were settled by a lot of Okies and Arkies, along with Kansas and Texas folks, back in the Dust Bowl days. Ever see or read "The Grapes of Wrath?" That was about them moving out West when everything dried up in Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas.

        I live in Arkansas, and a lot of the locals have family on the Pacific coast.

        So, I'm not surprised there is racism there, especially toward the Native Americans who their ancestors kicked out of Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas and Arkansas earlier in US history.

        Women create the entire labor force.

        by splashy on Sun Jun 17, 2012 at 04:13:02 AM PDT

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    •  No, I've lived multiple places, and I don't know (0+ / 0-)

      that, thank you. Here are some links for you:
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/...
      Also, your link doesn't actually prove that the South is singularly more racist than the rest of the US. When you start making cracks about how racist PA-ers and NY-ers are, then you might have a case that spoke to evidence rather than regionalism. And if you're going to argue that the South is a monolith, then other regions should receive the same treatment.

      It's debatable, as well, whether West Virginia is even part of the South. It seceded from Virginia and the Confederacy during the Civil War, and it's often characterized as part of the Mid-Atlantic.  

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