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  •  gaits too big (6+ / 0-)

    not necessarily the horse.   Meaning more power and thrust and upward/forward motion than the skill or physical prowess of the rider to absorb/control.The high level dressage horses are required to have a great deal of suspension, time in the air following the thrust of a leg(s).  Really big moving horses at the top end of the sport are said to have 'big gaits' and most amateur riders aren't able to handle it successfully.

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      So, OK, the horse was too big for her to control, which is why she wanted to sell it.

      I guess my question is, what is the likelihood that she was involved in or aware of the drugging. I am not familiar with the sales process. It sounds like the trainer and a vet were likely involved, but the question to me is whether she knew about it.

      •  Sorry (1+ / 0-)
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        jfromga

        Gaits were too big. Whatever the correct lingo:)

      •  hard to really say as an outsider (6+ / 0-)

        she's pretty close to the Ebelings based on some reports, but again,  do Romney's ever get close to people as we understand it?   Most people who like their animals are very involved.

        She claims to be very close to them, like her children.  Would you let someone be taking your kid to the vet, shooting it up with drugs (and she's paying the bills, but is she reviewing the bills), and never ask why this is happening?  

        I've known few upper level dressage owners.  More upper levels of cutting and western pleasure.  Some people know everything.  Some people meet a trainer at a show and come to practice twice a week for an hour and have no clue what is going on.  Some do what is best for the horse, retire or sell for a lower level of use any horse that has mental or physical problems.   Others cheat, cheat regularly, drug horses, mask problems, get caught, suspended, come back and cheat again.  The horses are machines, they perform or else.  Everyone else is a sucker to be taken.

        Sell a two year with 90 days training to unsuspecting parents as a child safe horse.   Talk people out of pre-purchase exams,  push them towards a vet they know will lie, etc.     Most people starting out in horses get cheated somewhere along the line, by a trainer who's all talk, or violent to the animals or abusive to the clients,  on purchases of horses, etc.   Horses are often an emotional outlet for people, it makes them vulnerable and stupid.  They fall in love with a dream, overestimate their own knowlege or are dazzled by someone who knows enough to put on a good show.

        And you also come to find out that even 'top' people aren't as knowledgeable or skilled as you would think sometimes.  That's what makes top level horse sports so bad for people and the animals.  People with money can buy anything with four legs, but the talent, the empathy, you can't buy that at all, and sometimes you have to see a lot of bad before you realize it is bad.  Sometimes you need a heap of book learning to add to the actual riding before you can catch people at the lies, the bad training, violence substituting for training.

        •  Yes to all you say. I've seen some terrible (1+ / 0-)
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          things done to people, ridiculously priced horses sold, unsound/unsafe horses sold, pyramid schemes, etc.  

          2012: the Year of the Voting Woman. And by the way, Republicans ... we're pretty pissed about what you've done to our country. Republican Party Motto: "Tax the poor, gift the rich"

          by mumtaznepal on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 08:24:01 PM PDT

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    •  they should have not sold him to NOrriss (0+ / 0-)

      for this reason alone, inapropriate for an amateur

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 03:07:18 PM PDT

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