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  •  Red X - Where Trayvon's body was found (2+ / 0-)
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    amsterdam, Tonedevil

    During Zimmerman's reenactment, he says Trayvon is on top of him, bangs his head on the concrete walkway, and then uses both hands to cover his mouth and nose.  He then shoots Trayvon, squirms out from underneath him, and somehow ends up on Trayvon's back where he spreads out his hands and restrains him.  (This is disturbing on its own because you must assume Trayvon did not die instantly; otherwise, why would Zimmerman feel he still needed to be restrained?)  

    On youtube, there is video of Tracy Martin (Trayvon's father) walking through the crime scene.  He says the police told him they found Trayvon lying face down with his head towards the back of the townhouses and his feet on the sidewalk.

    In Zimmerman's scenario, Trayvon's head should end up on or near the concrete and his feet should be in the grass facing the townhouses.  Completely opposite of where they were.

    •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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      Tonedevil

      Here is a photo of the crime scene with Trayvon's body in it. His head is towards the building.

      Photobucket

      Zimmerman describes the altercation as taking place before the tree.

      I am watching this video

      He signs a statement with his left hand. The direction of the projectile was directly from front to back just below the left nipple. No angle what so ever.
      He is toast.

      •  I just don't understand how they get that far (2+ / 0-)
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        amsterdam, Tonedevil

        down the crossway if GZ is knocked down from a single punch on the crosswalk.

        It is more likely GZ was following him down that crossway and was not on the other crosswalk heading towards his car.  It is more likely GZ did not go through there looking for a street sign.

        •  Zimmerman was going after (1+ / 0-)
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          Tonedevil

          Trayvon. In his mind he was playing cops and robbers. I think he was probably trying to "arrest" him.  

        •  what we know is where the objects were found (0+ / 0-)

          And the only thing we can tie to TM that is even remotely up by the T is the tan bag, some 30 feet south of the T.  

          GZ's keychain flashlight is 8 feet south of the T.  

          GZ says he was past the T on the cut thru heading towards his vehicle but I pretty much assume he's lying here, too.  

          He's likely trying to obscure the fact that he turned south onto the path leading south (his keys are there) when something happened.  

          Don't try to figure out what happened.  There's no way to know.  Figure out all the things GZ says that COULDN'T have happened first.  

      •  no offense but that's his shoe nearest the bldg (0+ / 0-)

        it's got reflective tape on it and is peeking out from the yelow tarp.

        I don't know which ways GZ moved the fatally wounded unarmed teen, or what the emergency responders did to flip the body from likely face down to face up, but we do know that the witness who took the bloody head photo told police he took two pictures of the body with his iPhone.  

        I think the lies GZ tells are so numerous it's hard to know when he is actually on occasion telling the truth.  

        And to be honest I'm not following the gunshot stuff closely, but that's his shoe there...  

        carry on.  

    •  Bullets don't instantly kill people. (1+ / 0-)
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      amsterdam

      Even someone with a bullet through the heart can be conscious for up to minute.

      The only time people drop like a ragdoll is when they take a bullet to the brain.

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