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  •  I've taken to asking people what they would (11+ / 0-)

    like to see happen.  Older people talk about how it used to be when "Blue Cross/ Sheild was a regulated monopoly and all employers offered it pretty much for free."  And that's pretty much the quote I get over and over.

    Sooooo, you want more government regulation and companies to pick up the tab out of their profits?

    As they are trying to get over what actually just came out of their mouths, I smile and agree that I might be willing to go with that over what we have, now.

    Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

    by bkamr on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:10:33 AM PDT

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      These folks vote?????  

    •  What is truly appalling.... (9+ / 0-)

      is that the GOP's prime focus is on killing the bill.  Some of them are now trying to have it both ways by saying they will vote to "keep popular parts of the bill," but what they fail to reveal is that it isn't possible to have a workable plan if you cherry pick the popular stuff out of it.  Financially it is a disaster and one of the major reasons for the original bill was to try and get a handle on the soaring cost of health care under the old plans.

      Worse yet, they don't have any alternate plans and don't plan to:

      This and the GOP plan to implement the Ryan Budget plan but refuse to answer questions as to just what it will mean in terms of cuts in social programs are what voters need to know about BEFORE the election, but likely will not.  Instead, they may feel comfortable with delusions that "Romney is a businessman and he knows how to create jobs," or that basically "anything is better than this."

      Like the consequences of electing Bush Junior, the end results would be devastating, but too many voters would never know that their ignorance caused it.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:53:00 AM PDT

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    •  Love it! Gonna steal that comment for future use! (0+ / 0-)

      Smiling all the way!

      ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

      by NevDem on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 10:06:28 AM PDT

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    •  I've heard that, too (0+ / 0-)

      MANY people think that if they have employer provided health insurance, it's free.  My wingnut uncle explained to me how in Europe, the government takes all your money in taxes, but here in the US, we get to keep our mony, and Obamacare would change that.  I asked him, so you would rather pay more out of pocket for private health insurance than pay less for it in taxes, like the Europeans do?  His response?

      I don't pay for my health care, my employer gives it to me for free.
      Don't even try explaining that his wages would be higher if the employer didn't provide his health care, he won't accept that.  Does not compute.  

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 01:08:21 PM PDT

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