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  •  If Republicans Explained To Their Constituents (5+ / 0-)
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    ZedMont, xaxnar, mcmom, tb mare, Arenosa

    that if ACA fails to be supported by the SCOTUS, then the private healthcare system will die in 5 to 10 years, and we more than likely with have a real universal healthcare plan which hopefully will be single payer.  The US cannot sustain 51 million people that don't have health insurance of any kind.  Private insurers will keep raising prices to make profits and more and more people will drop out resulting in a huge healthcare cathastrophe that the government will have to clean up.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:27:55 AM PDT

    •  But how many people will die until then? (5+ / 0-)
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        mcmom, xaxnar

        Will they kick people out of the hospitals when the law is struck down?   I'm just asking.

        •  Yes. (3+ / 0-)
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          xaxnar, ArtemisBSG, Mistral Wind

          I listened to a congressional hearing once where a lady who had cancer was already in the hospital preparing for surgery when the insurance company pulled the plug on her. And, yes, they threw her out. She said, and I don't know if this is the whole story, the insurance company found that she had a pre-existing condition, acne, when she was younger. She apparently got some kind of treatment because her hair was very short, like it was growing back in after being bald.

          Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

          by HappyinNM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 09:19:16 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly. That's the Republican idea of how to (1+ / 0-)
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        clean up the catastrophe.

        History merely repeats itself; it doesn't cure its own ills. That is the burden of the present.

        by ZedMont on Thu Jun 21, 2012 at 08:37:23 AM PDT

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    •  Well, 5 to 10 years (1+ / 0-)
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      Arenosa

      is a short time.  I don't see that happening.  Maybe if we allow total dystopia to occur, your scenario of single payer would come to fruition, but I think it would be a miniumum of 20 years.

      The private system is not going to die, it will simply support fewer people -- think the top 10% of income earners.

      Healthcare is already catastrophic. The public hospitals here are already stretched to the maximum.  Bankruptcy followed by public health care (Medicaid) is what is occuring.  It's why Obama, after speaking with people around the country during the 2008 campaign, was so determined to get ACA done, regardless of the Great Recession.

      If ACA is overturned, I don't see things getting better anytime soon.  Unless we have a solid majority in both houses of Congress, and get rid of the filibuster, a solution will not be tenable.

      In the meantime, more people suffer and die.

      It's bleak.  I guess I could hope that people will wake up and quit voting for Republicans.

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