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  •  But that would be so "non-competitive" (2+ / 0-)
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    and would go against the spirit of the times, wouldn't it. We must think globally and be ready to live on less than anyone else we can find who might want to do whatever kind of jobs there are.

    Moderation in most things.

    by billmosby on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 08:51:29 AM PDT

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    •  It would be anti-competitive (1+ / 0-)
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      if you define competitive as the kind of cut-throat capitalism that is the cause of so much of our dysfunction. If we can get the rest of the world to join us in raising up a new middle class, that's fine. If we cannot, then we insulate ourselves with tariffs and treaties.

      Competition adapts to whatever landscape it finds itself in. At present, our economic landscape selects for the best bullies and thieves. Well, we might not like that, but the Middle Ages shows us that it is sustainable.

      If we want to avoid the short, nasty and brutish life most lived in those times, we must do the hard work of re-imagining our economic landscape so that competition supports equality and the commons.  

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:00:38 PM PDT

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      •  Not too hard for me to re-imagine it, (1+ / 0-)
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        That was the world I lived in up until sometime around the mid-90s. There had been rumblings of the globalized world of today before then but it hadn't really gotten rolling yet.

        Now it's almost 20 years on, and there are so many people who never knew that more rational, functional world. And they are the ones who will have to imagine it almost from scratch with no memories to reassure them that such a life is even possible.

        With some non-negligible percentage of them following Ron Paul, I wonder how that will go.

        Moderation in most things.

        by billmosby on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 01:06:17 PM PDT

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        •  We can ship the kids off (1+ / 0-)
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          one by one, or in small groups, to a sustainable eco commune in Costa Rica for a few months. If we accidentally send some who want to go Galt, well, there's plenty of jungle to wander off in.

          "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

          by Orinoco on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 03:15:53 PM PDT

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          •  Or just narrow the (1+ / 0-)
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            choices their iPads have for communication. My 30-year-old sons live in cyberspace with the rest of their friends, who are all present all the time in that world. Sometimes I wonder if the basic paradigms of their lives resemble mine in any way at all...

            Moderation in most things.

            by billmosby on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 03:33:09 PM PDT

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