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  •  I'm going to go with (5+ / 0-)

    I don't have a moral obligation to buy one of these and instead I'll keep using my bicycle.  But thanks for playing.

    The amount of resources that goes into a car, whatever sort of power it uses, is far, far more than you use if you stick to human powered transport and public transportation.

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 09:03:48 PM PDT

    •  That's a solid option too. (3+ / 0-)
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      But if you do buy a car and can afford one in that range, that's the obligatory option.

      "I'm going to rub your faces in things you try to avoid." - Muad'Dib

      by Troubadour on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 09:15:11 PM PDT

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      •  One of the things that frustrates me is that (1+ / 0-)
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        these are presented as a way for people who don't need cars to still have cars.  Most people I've know don't need cars.  They think they need cars, and cars make life easier, but they don't need them.  This includes places where it gets cold and snows and whatever.  For that much money you could get ten fully enclosed human powered vehicles to cart around your shit.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 09:22:07 PM PDT

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        •  What's your definition of "need"? (0+ / 0-)

          Have 50% of people survive long enough to successfully procreate?  60%  80%?  Live ten years after procreation?  Twenty?  Man does not live by bread alone, but by the existence of possibilities beyond what is necessary.  Only in this way is entropy defeated and extinction eluded.  Sorry, but you don't "need" the computer you're using to type these comments on, nor the electricity consumed in the process.  There's a lot of cognitive dissonance in the things you're saying.

          "I'm going to rub your faces in things you try to avoid." - Muad'Dib

          by Troubadour on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 11:54:40 PM PDT

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          •  Where did I say I needed those things? (0+ / 0-)

            You're the one that said I have a duty to buy this car.

            More importantly, the amount of resources it takes to build one of these car is huge.  Quit pretending like electricity means theres no pollution with the car.

            And of course, whenever I make points about how people don't need cars nearly as often as they say they do some stoner philosopher has to step and say the same shit. "Hey man, like, what do we really need?  Ya know."

            There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 07:38:06 AM PDT

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