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  •  why don't you just keep what you have? (2+ / 0-)
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    Crider, AoT

    Buying new crap like in the photos is destroying our planet. We can't consume our way out of global warming.

    You should consider keeping what you have for the rest of your life. No more open pit mines for the high tech rare metals that go into keeping up with the Joneses, no coal burning power plants to power the steel mills in Korea to manufacture the high quality steel that goes into the skin of the car.

    Rich Americans are the most polluting animals on the face of the earth, this car is a prime example of why.

    The theory that nature is permanently in balance has been largely discredited

    by ban nock on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 05:29:57 AM PDT

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    •  Sure (2+ / 0-)
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      davidseth, Troubadour

      Language professors HATE me!

      by Zornorph on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 07:23:17 AM PDT

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    •  Usually (5+ / 0-)
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      lineatus, AoT, cosette, old wobbly, Troubadour

      But not always.  There is the damage from creating and distributing a car, and the damage from regular use.  Look at solar cells.  There is considerable damage from making them, but (hopefully) at some point the amount of damage from use of fossil fuels surpasses that, and they start becoming a net positive.  Same thing might apply to the Tesla, or to the Prius, for that matter.

      Of course, when it comes to transportation, better approaches are possible; bicycles, mass transit, and just flat out driving less.

      I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

      by tle on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 07:44:21 AM PDT

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    •  we don't run around buying new cars every couple (0+ / 0-)

      of years. We drive our cars until they are pretty much done in. None of our old cars were traded in to get something spiffier. The closest we came to that was getting a new minivan in 2000 after our oldest daughter was killed in a car accident. We went out and bought the car with the highest safety rating -- it was one of the first cars (and was the first non-luxury car) to have side curtain airbags, a safety feature that could have saved our daughter's life. Given that we had another daughter and were planning on adopting a child, we wanted the safest thing on the road.

      In a couple of years, we'll probably give the oldest Prius to our older daughter (if she needs it then -- she's moving to NYC in the fall and won't have/doesn't want/doesn't need a car for the next couple of years). If she needs a car then and we give her ours, that's when we'd look into this type of car for us. (we bought the new Prius when we could no longer borrow my MIL's 1995 Taurus. It's still in use by her caretaker her drives her everywhere).

      And none of our old cars have gone to landfill. They may not be in good enough shape to drive but we donate them to the vocational program at a local public high school where they're fixed and refurbished by students learning auto mechanics, and then sold to raise money for the program and be used by someone else.

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Sat Jun 23, 2012 at 08:16:00 PM PDT

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