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  •  Companies like this want employees (12+ / 0-)

    but not in the traditional sense.  They want "virtual" employees.

    People who do the work for the lowest wages and no benefits.  In other words, somebody who works for somebody else.

    Preferably overseas, because it's even cheaper.

    I've had this experience, in my job.  After I retired, my job was outsourced offshore to India.

    The company I used to work for? They still claim the person in India as an "employee", even though that employee works for a different company, on a different continent.

    That way the shell company that used to be my employer can claim that "employment" by them has risen.  When, in fact, the opposite is true.

    Ain't capitalism grand?

    •  Yes, very important (6+ / 0-)
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      Hey338Too, phonegery, ybruti, rb608, gulfgal98, caul

      I udpated the diary to highlight that while Bain focuses on offshoring in terms of their outsourcing, even domestic outsourcing is incredibly bad for American workers.

      Romney is trapped. He's trying to defend what he claims is a lesser evil, but the so-called lesser evil isn't reflective of Bain's policy to offshore whenever possible, and it's still at the root of the evil that's killing American workers. Some might even argue it isn't the "lesser" of the two evils.

      Giving our American jobs to an illegal immigrant or to a temp worker doesn't do people any more good than if the job had been sent to China. In fact, it undermines the labor market here just as much if not more so.

      •  Precisely... (7+ / 0-)

        ... some of the jobs at the company I mentioned were outsourced to former employees who became contractors.  These are hourly workers.  The rules of the road are that you work as many hours as it takes to get the job done, except they refuse to pay any overtime - even if it is required in order to complete the work.  That is only illegal if you have the balls to challenge them on it, any challenge and your job is gone.

        The company has now been scaling back hours that their contractors can work (not scaling back the work itself - only the hours).  I think the max number of hours now is 36, it may be lower - if you work a minute more you are donating your time to the stockholders.

        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

        by Hey338Too on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 05:09:41 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah. (10+ / 0-)

      I worked customer service for a major telecommunications company - except I wasn't working for them, I was working for a consulting firm that operated customer service for Company X on a "project" basis.  The "project" was at least seven years old by the time I got there, but there you are.

      We had it drummed into us never to quite identify ourselves as Company X employees to callers.  There was an actual mailing address for the actual Company X corporate customer service department, but none of us proles on the call floor had it - and one supervisor got reprimanded for providing that address to a customer without authorization.

      Need I add, we all had junk insurance, no paid time off, "mandatory overtime" of up to ten additional hours per week above scheduled shifts, and no unions?

    •  Aint capitalism grand? (4+ / 0-)

      Capitalism, if it is regulated, can be grand.  It's the capitalists that are rotten, heartless, bastards.  

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