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  •  Are Texas Democrats (3+ / 0-)
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    real Democrats?

    Or are they anti-choice, anti-union, anti ACA, pro-tax cuts for corporations Democrats.

    Should we spend limited resources on Democrats who will not stand with the party (Nelson, Lieberman, etc.)?

    The Republicans have learned that it is better to have 40 true believers in the Senate than to have the House, Senate and Presidency with people who defect at the drop of a hat.


    Which is good news for John McCain.

    by AppleP on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:38:13 AM PDT

    •  I know lots of progressive Dems in Texas (6+ / 0-)

      My buddy Annise Parker, Mayor of Houston is one of them. Bob Lanier was OK too though a bit more of a good ol' boy, he knew how to court the LGBT vote which is very important in Houston elections.

      Texas has lots of conservadems too but Texas is hardly alone in that. Everyone thinks of Massachusetts as being "liberal" but what it really is is a one-party state, the result of which is that there are many, many conservative Dems in Massachusetts. Our 2nd District congressman here in Maine is a conservative Democrat (I don't live in his district though). Texas is hardly alone in having Democrats of all stripes. Unlike Mass or Maine though, Democrats in Texas don't hold any powerful offices. That's what Texas has to change.

      Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Mrs. Romney: Fraud on Horse.

      by commonmass on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:45:48 AM PDT

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    •  Actually (5+ / 0-)
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      the Texas Democratic party platform is rather progressive. My guess is the candidate will matter more though.

      The Spice must Flow!

      by Texdude50 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:49:11 AM PDT

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    •  Most of us are real Democrats (7+ / 0-)

      though we have our fair share of dinos, i.e. blue dogs.

    •  There are Texas Democrats,not East Coast Democrats (7+ / 0-)

      There is no silly litmus test for Dems elsewhere and there will be none for Texas. What works for San Francisco may not work in San Antonio. Heck, what works in Austin doesn't work in San Antonio!

      The point being is that we are not Republicans with a narrow but deep base.

      I do know one thing: the dominant political party must go national, not regional, and that means it must go through the South. If we want to break the Republican dominance, then we absolutely must win states such as Arizona, Georgia, and Texas.

      I'm tired of Florida getting all of the attention it does. If we can afford to play in Florida, we can afford to play in Texas if we put in the organizational effort. Texas has a far more friendlier demographic profile for us, but Florida is well-organized with our constituents in the habit of showing up to vote. One cycle is all it will take to turn Texas purple  and one the path to blue. I believe 2014 is our chance and health care our weapon.

      "There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.".. Buddha

      by sebastianguy99 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 08:11:13 AM PDT

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      •  I don't think it is silly (0+ / 0-)

        to require someone who wants to receive campaign funding from liberal causes to believe strongly (and vote accordingly) in a few basic Democratic values.

        Here in WI we voted in Governor Doyle using union money.  He did nothing for us so when it came time for re-election the unions threw their support for him again anyway.  He won and we got nothing from him.  That opened the door for Walker four years later and the rest is history.

        Republicans have their "silly" litmus tests:  No taxes on the wealthy, no choice, no regulations, no unions - and they are winning on every one of those issues even though those positions hurt the majority of the voters.

        Which is good news for John McCain.

        by AppleP on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 12:57:32 PM PDT

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