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  •  I don't know (0+ / 0-)

    if this is snark but I usually agree with your posts, not this one. I mean just put the politics aside for a second, can you not celebrate this victory for people? Millions of kids everywhere will now be able to remain on their parents health insurance and people will not be kicked off their insurance for pre existing conditions. In regards to politics, I highly doubt that Roberts was thinking that far in advance. Yeah, maybe the commerce clause news for them but I tell you, if they really wanted to repeal it, they would do it now.

    Also, there's absolutely no guarantee there will be a Republican Congress, and absolutely no guarantee there will be a Republican president, as Romney has a pretty slim chance of being president, although things can change. They wouldn't take a chance on it.

    Finally, if this was such a political masterstroke, the people at Redstate would not be foaming at the mouth and demanding John Roberts head on a stick.

    •  I personally (0+ / 0-)

      hate the mandate.

      But it was Constitutional UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE AND NECESSARY AND PROPER CLAUSE.

      This ruling potentially undermined both the commerce clause and the spending power, and people are lionizing Roberts for it (giving him cover to make the rest of his rulings extreme-right-wing like the ones before this).

      and yes, Justices think about this stuff, and the fact that redstate is foaming at the mouth means nothing. they do that no matter what, and they are idiots.

      •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

        with on the mandate. I don't like it at all. But let's be honest. Single payer was not gonna happen. It can happen in the future but not right now. I think this law sets it in motion.

        Now, in regards to the commerce clause, I agree with you but the conservatives obviously don't agree. If they didn't limit the commerce clause with this case, they would've done it in the future. I'm certainly not lionizing Roberts at all. But like I said, can you not be happy for people that will get healthcare or stay on their insurance plans?

        Maybe Roberts was thinking that far in advance but do you really think he would bank on Romney winning and the Republicans taking control to get rid of it? Redstate visitors and other sites like that are idiots but, let me ask you a question, do you think they would have wanted Roberts to strike it down now or wait for Romney to do it?

        •  the point was (0+ / 0-)

          that they managed to limit the commerce clause in such a way that most people don't realize it and they don't get backlash from the left for it.

          that's the point of the original comment.

          and Romney doesn't have to win for Roberts to have done this with those things in mind. he gets those limits on the commerce clause and spending power no matter who is president and it's in the Court's precedent from now on.
           

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