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  •  Given that the church never allowed an (7+ / 0-)

    investigation and likely never will there isn't going to be any physical evidence in cases like this.  I don't know all the details of the case and I haven't read any accounts of him being murdered so I don't know how plausible or likely they are, but the idea that a pope would be poisoned because of intra-church politics is not at all surprising or really terribly uncommon.

    There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

    by AoT on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 10:07:48 AM PDT

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    •  Not all that uncommon? (0+ / 0-)

      Maybe it would relieve some of my skepticism if you could provide a link to some other recent Papal murder evidence.

      •  Do you not know the history of the Church (6+ / 0-)

        and the Papacy?  Even minus the especially rocky times with the Medicis there's an assassination every couple of hundred of years, and those are the ones we do have evidence for.  I really can't believe you find the idea that a pope might have been murdered by people in the church so outlandish.  This is a millennia old, secretive organization that is known to have committed conspiracies to cover up all sorts of wrong doing.

        And to be clear, this is about the church, not catholics in general.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 10:49:07 AM PDT

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      •  My Pleasure. Per Wiki: List of murdered popes (3+ / 0-)
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        Your use of the word "recent" is troublesome because during the 20th century, for example, their were only 8 Popes. But throughout history we are provided with plenty of mystery:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Matthew 5:11

        by parsonsbeach on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 01:21:21 PM PDT

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