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  •  Depletion and technofixes under capitalism (0+ / 0-)
    Resource depletion in particular categories just creates new opportunities.
    The argument as made above is easily rebutted.  Imagine that a global-warming-induced heat wave has destroyed the crop for this year and you're starving because the stored-up food supplies were used up in last year's heat wave.  This might be an "opportunity" for some entrepreneur, but to do what?  Sell you rocks to eat?

    As for technological fixes, they're fine, except that if capitalism is to continue in robust fashion, technological fixes must institute a new era of cheap resources for capitalists to exploit to expand business.  No such new era of cheap resources is anywhere on the horizon.  Technological fixes today don't do that.  Rather, new resources are made available, as we can see with alternative energy, but they aren't cheap.  Also, new communicative resources such as the Internet are now available, but they aren't good for capitalism because they're better adapted to a gift economy than to a capitalist economy.  There will, then, be new resources available through technological fixes -- they won't be good for capitalists, however.  

    Your SWP acquaintance is wrong, in that the environment will be the main concern under socialism and not merely something "we shouldn't worry about."  When the public is in control of the means of production, refitting the means of production to produce indefinite sustainability will be "what is to be done," and it will be a task for everyone and not just a few experts.

    "It's just a ride." -Bill Hicks

    by Cassiodorus on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 05:16:04 AM PDT

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    •  You should text Jeff Bezos and warn him about (0+ / 0-)

      this gift thing.

      And I can hardly wait until the new nomenklatura are in charge of the EPA.  One resource shortage we will never have to endure is a naivete shortage.

      Where are we, now that we need us most?

      by Frank Knarf on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 09:04:31 AM PDT

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      •  Oh come off it Frank (0+ / 0-)

        You don't really think Cassiodorus is advocating Soviet style socialism do you?

        As for naivete, it comes in many guises but all of them involve simplistic approaches to complex problems.  Among these is the idea that any system created by human beings will be able retain its viability in the face of changes in the objective conditions that gave rise to it.  

        Nothing human is alien to me.

        by WB Reeves on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 12:08:21 PM PDT

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