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  •  Sure, there's a strong middle class tradition in (2+ / 0-)
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    the US. Our revolution was a bourgeoie revolt of New England traders, shopkeepers, and farmers (the original "small businessmen"), coupled with the support of a few southern intellectuals. With industrialization, the working class/working poor grew substantially, populated by immigration, the history of which is familiar to all. Each immigrant group in turn had substantial numbers advance into the middle class. To say that there's no middle class tradition in the US is absurd. It's the most traditionally middle class country on earth. Bourgeoie values are practically sacrosanct!

    That's not to say that there aren't, or haven't been a lot of working poor. But the aspirations, values, ideals, and traditions of most people in the US are now and have always been decidedly middle class.

    Two hundred million Americans, and there ain't two good catchers among 'em. --Casey Stengel

    by LongTom on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 04:44:36 AM PDT

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    •  But less so among Blacks... (0+ / 0-)

      They didn't get to be middle class until the 60's. It's been a long hard road for them.

      "Here's another nice mess you've gotten me into." - Oliver Hardy

      by native on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 07:21:19 AM PDT

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      •  Of course blacks have had it toughest, but my (2+ / 0-)
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        point is that the "middle class tradition" didn't start after WWII or end in the '80s. The point is that the nation's values and traditions are, for good and for ill, decidedly middle class. Thrift, hard work, exaltation of the profit motive, religious orthodoxy, intolerance or indifference to art, obedience to authority, aversion to social change, admiration of wealth, materialism, etc.--these have always been the middle class values that have dominated US society.

        Two hundred million Americans, and there ain't two good catchers among 'em. --Casey Stengel

        by LongTom on Sun Jul 08, 2012 at 07:32:38 AM PDT

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