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  •  Sam Adams was the leader. (3+ / 0-)

    The bourgeois "revolutionaries" who were running the show saw to it that they got squelched.


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    by Richard Lyon on Sun Sep 02, 2012 at 05:43:17 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly right, Richard (4+ / 0-)

      I would quibble only with the placement of quote marks around the word revolutionaries. Jefferson, Washington, Adams, et al., were real revolutionaries, who did risk their lives and fortunes. As Karl put it so well:

      "But unheroic though bourgeois society is, it nevertheless needed heroism, sacrifice, terror, civil war, and national wars to bring it into being. And in the austere classical traditions of the Roman Republic the bourgeois gladiators found the ideals and the art forms, the self-deceptions, that they needed to conceal from themselves the bourgeois-limited content of their struggles and to keep their passion on the high plane of great historic tragedy. Similarly, at another stage of development a century earlier, Cromwell and the English people had borrowed from the Old Testament the speech, emotions, and illusions for their bourgeois revolution. When the real goal had been achieved and the bourgeois transformation of English society had been accomplished, Locke supplanted Habakkuk. "

      "Karl Marx and Frederick Engels came to the checkout at the 7-11 Marx was skint - but he had sense Engels lent him the necessary pence What have we got? Yeh-o, magnificence!!" (The Clash, 1976-1983)

      by Le Gauchiste on Sun Sep 02, 2012 at 05:52:44 PM PDT

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      •  I think that the French and Russian (3+ / 0-)

        affairs set the standard for real revolutions. They radically changed the arrangements for political and economic power. The American war of independence simply separated the colonies from the British crown. Fundamental social relationships were not materially changed. The new government was framed by prosperous merchants and plantation holding slave owners. The indigenous Americans and the African slaves were written out of the rhetoric of liberty and equality.


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        by Richard Lyon on Sun Sep 02, 2012 at 06:16:04 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly what is happening today with the old, now (2+ / 0-)
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      bourgie Comunist Party selling the movement into the Democratic Party.

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