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  •  I am missing the judgmental stereotypes (1+ / 0-)
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    to which you are referring, perhaps that is the basis of the problem ... no one is judging anyone, there is no need for judgement; it is a discussing of the state of the movement, nothing more.  While I think that Occupy is perhaps the best thing to come out of the US since the IWW, we need to analyse where the movement is, that cannot happen without an understanding of why the labour movement is so weak, why we are unable to get people to move beyond reformist arguments. I do not get where you are seeing judgements.

    The trade union movement has long been co-opted (I am not talking about IWW), I am talking about the leadership of the mainstream unions. That is a truth, there was a capital-labour compromise conducted between the ruling class and the trade union leadership. That does not mean that the rank and file have been co-opted, but we do need to recognise that the trade union movement has, irrespective of the compromise, been facing a long term and deliberate sustained attack by the ruling classes, hand in hand with the mainstream political parties, democratic and republican. The left was driven out of the mainstream unions or driven into hiding (yes, I am quite aware that they are there), they are weak because the sectors that they were strong in have been deliberately shifted overseas, now they are going for the state/public sector. We need to understand objective and subjective conditions to understand the situation

    "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

    by NY brit expat on Sun Sep 02, 2012 at 10:39:10 PM PDT

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    •  Oh my... (0+ / 0-)

      You're continuing to misinterpret my comments. Never mind... let's move on.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sun Sep 02, 2012 at 11:56:58 PM PDT

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