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  •  I thought perhaps they are evacuating the Russians (3+ / 0-)
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    that are in that country.  This kind of thing was done in Libya.

    •  I think that's right (3+ / 0-)
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      The Russian naval deployment isn't really news. There are tens of thousands of Russians in Syria, and this deployment was meant to provide assistance to them if conditions continue to deteriorate, which seems likely. The Kremlin is worried about the safety of its citizens, and rightfully so. Some day, hopefully, they'll start being concerned over the fate of the people of Syria too.

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      by Korkenzieher on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:55:38 AM PDT

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      •  If tis a move to withdraw, (1+ / 0-)
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        Mr. Assad will find himself homeless quite soon.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 08:03:44 AM PDT

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        •  Big difference between withdrawal (1+ / 0-)
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          ...and evac of citizenry and non-essential people. The Russians will not be withdrawing from Syria any time soon. They need those southern ports. That was true 400 years ago, and it's true today.

          •  no question. But they have to hedge their bets (0+ / 0-)

            If they see Assad's ass in a sniper's crosshairs, they will run, not walk, to make nicely nicely with the opposition.

            Assad's close family fiend and top general just defected. That's gotta hurt some. How quickly do you think that the French officials made him available for questioning to the Russian Embassy reps? Probably within hours of his arrival in Chuck de'Gaulle.

            What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

            by agnostic on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 09:35:45 AM PDT

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          •  Why do they need (0+ / 0-)

            those southern ports?

            •  why do we need Diego Garcia Island? (0+ / 0-)

              for which we pay top dollar to our english speaking friends across the pond?

              What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

              by agnostic on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 10:04:45 AM PDT

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              •  We don't actually need Diego Garcia (0+ / 0-)

                but Russia needs Tartus because...I don't know.  Maybe Crimea is not a good enough vacation spot for sailors on leave?  Because Russia's small, coastal offense/defense navy likes to make short trips across deep water that is pretty safe?  

                •  I suspect the pentagon would disagree (0+ / 0-)

                  rather strongly.

                  It is a major base for both air force and navy projection. Supplies, ammo, fuel, manpower, all smack dab in the Indian Ocean, ready for transport to middle east, far west, indian, pakistani or northern africa sites.

                  What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

                  by agnostic on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 10:27:18 AM PDT

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                  •  It's too small for that (0+ / 0-)

                    It's a small airbase that is conveniently on the Arabian Sea but not on Indian, Pakistani, Omani, or Yemeni soil.

                    But back to Tartus- what good is it as a Russian base?  Militarily it serves primarily to annoy Turkey, which is a nonproductive policy of Moscow's.   More importantly, of course, it provides a means by which Putin's mafia government supports the Assad mafia government.  Which is part of a coalition of similarly anarchic/despotic militarist governments, warlords, and armed factions extending from Gaza and Beirut to central Afghanistan with HQ in Teheran.

                    •  SMALL airbase? that routinely handles (1+ / 0-)
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                      the largest US military planes, including the B-2, and the biggest transport monsters?

                      define small, please.

                      What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

                      by agnostic on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:32:41 PM PDT

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