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  •  I don't get it (1+ / 0-)
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    indres

    You can make a ton of excuses for why certain groups don't have ID, but you can't come up with a strong case for why asking legal, registered voters to identify themselves is bad other than the aforementioned groups lacking ID.

    Is the problem asking voters to identify themselves? Or is the problem minorities lacking ID.

    I've never gotten a straight answer to the first question that wasnt conflating the issue with lack of IDs for minorities.

    •  Voting is a Right (1+ / 0-)
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      gulfgal98

      Voter ID laws are a deliberate attempt to keep people from voting. It has nothing what-so-ever to do with preventing fraud. Voter impersonation fraud simply does not exist. It is already illegal to do so!
      To all but the most obtuse, it is painfully obvious why a voter ID law that prevents hundreds of thousands of voters from voting while doing nothing to combat a problem that does not exist in the first place is an anathema! In a nutshell, the law hurts many while helping none.

      --- Keep Christian mythology out of science class!

      by cybersaur on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 05:54:49 PM PDT

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    •  texasmom laid it out pretty well. (1+ / 0-)
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      gulfgal98

      As someone said here- it is the 'photo voter ID' from the DMV that some States are now requiring to vote that is a hardship on so many of us. Yes, they will give it free of charge but they won't assist you in getting the lost marriage lic. to prove name change or the certified copy of your birth certificate. (not certificate of live birth). We are a mixed bag in our country and the photo voter ID may be a breeze to comply with for one person but may be hell for another.

      Next it may be only people with a good credit rating allowed to vote.

    •  If I have to get an ID now (1+ / 0-)
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      Dixiedemocrat

      Here is what I would need to provide:

      1) certified birth certificate
      2) proof of marriage to first husband
      3) proof of divorce from first husband
      4) proof of marriage to second husband

      That is now and yet I have been voting legally for over 40 years.  There is something terribly wrong that requires that I now must PAY to obtain documents to prove who I am after over 40 years of voting legally.  And in Florida, I must submit all these documents when I renew my drivers license which I have legally held for 47 years.  This is wrong.

      The cost of obtaining all these documents is in reality a poll tax that unequally affects minorities, elderly and women.

      "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

      by gulfgal98 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 06:29:36 PM PDT

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