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  •  Rampant corruption (1+ / 0-)
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    in the nuclear industry? Say not so!

    Well, at least South Korea has dared to actually investigate, arrest and charge some of the culprits in this circular back-scratching and palm-greasing operation. Which is more than Japan has been willing to do to TEPCO (et al., meaning all other nuclear corporations in Japan) for relying on the Yakuza to supply illegally conscripted grunt workers, construction and maintenance low-bids at all their plants through the decades of their operation, etc., etc., etc.

    And certainly more than the U.S. would ever do about our nuclear industry's ties to organized crime in just about all aspects of the industry except responsible utility personnel concerned with physical operations.

    Here's hoping that the new scrutiny on nukes in the wake of Fukushima leads to some interest from nuclear nations worldwide in actually enforcing regulatory requirements for a change. But I'm not dumb enough to be holding my breath on that.

    P.S. I appreciated your article on Not that I think the situation will ever change or anything, given that the nuclear industry has basically been exempt from whistleblower protections for the entire history of its existence.

    •  Thank you Joieau. I saw your comment. (1+ / 0-)
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      The Japanese can take some lessons from Korea, obviously. I think the US is more an outlier. The NRC rules and recs are generally the gold standard around the world. corruption of the type we see in the article on KEPCO is not the kind we've seen in the U.S. I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove a similarity.

      First off all the major differences here, in both cases at KEPCO, is that we're talking actual bribes. This is not unimportant. I'm reporting this largely because it's a good thing the gov't is doing this. But even here I'm personally reserving judgment of this being 'good', or, rather, enough, pending this ongoing investigation. I want to see what more will come out, the limits of this, as I suggest, etc.

      In some ways the problems with the US are more akin to the problems with Japan, where it is largely an issue of regulatory lapses and deliberate ignoring (not that this occurs in the US per se). Of course even here it's stretch, as the NRC/Industry/Public relationship, for all its' warts and blemishes, is amazingly transparent compared to both Korea and Japan.

      One the advantages the Koreans have is that KEPCO is largely a state run entity. My own sources in Korea, at KEPCO actually, tell me that this facilitated the turning over of documents without neary a whisper of dissent as top management is appointed basically by the government.

      Not so in Japan (and the US) largely privatized electrical industry.

      There are virtually no strong movements against nuclear in Korea due to Korea important 90% of it's energy from overseas.

      Dr. Isaac Asimov: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny ...'"

      by davidwalters on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:44:29 AM PDT

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    •  Well, I respectively disagree. (0+ / 0-)

      I disagree with your use of the term in any context, "I'm not dumb enough..."

      You certainly weren't smart enough to manage to get the half life of even one half-life correct when discussing nuclear physics, not one.

      Not smart enough to get one, NOT ONE, right.

      Last week it was a hundred and eighteen degrees in the shade in Kansas.

      In 2003, 70,000 people died from the heat.

      To which, in response to practically every climate scientist on earth you  had this to say, typical of the glib indifference to humanity expressed freely be the anti-nuke cults.:

      Could just be weather, (0+ / 0-)
      you know. Which is quite a different subject than actual climate change. I did look at the calendar today, and sure enough, it's July 1st. Honest to goodness summer here in the northern hemisphere, where it gets up into the 90s and even triple digits for days at a time through the height of the season. Pretty much always has, just like it gets bone-chilling cold for days at a time through the height of winter. Always has...

      Hence while it's sure darned hot, it's not exactly unheard-of. Oddly enough, droughts aren't that rare either. Why, back in my parents' day there was a whole Dust Bowl thing happening in the southern midwest, it didn't rain for years and years. crops dried up, houses and town got buried in blowing dust, Okies migrated en masse to California looking for viable cropland.

      Honestly, if we're to panic and scream that every heat wave, cold snap, tornado outbreak, thunderstorm, hurricane and/or blizzard is Global Climate Change Writ Large, we just might end up shooting ourselves in the proverbial foot. People who actually live their lives in the world with enough functional memory to recall the last decade or two or three's worth of weather will simply tune it out as hyperbole (Chicken Little stuff). Is that going to be helpful?

      by Joieau on Sun Jul 01, 2012 at 04:08:05 PM EDT

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      If we attributed these remarks to anyone on Fox News, no one would fail to believe it.


      I hold those who hate the world's largest, by far source of climate change gas free primary energy, solely out of fear, superstition and ignorance, responsible for those 70,000 deaths, just as I hold them responsible for the deaths of 3.3 million people per year - half under the age of 5 - who will die this year from air pollution.

      It's amazing how many anti-nukes burn coal fired electricity to pray aloud that someone, anyone, will eventually die to validate their bizarre and morally hollow Fukushima fetish.

      This year the concentration of dangerous fossil fuel waste in the planetary atmosphere will rise by the fifth largest amount ever recorded, and what have you to offer?

      Bill O'Reilly rhetoric.

      In the next few years, epidemiologists may record the number of deaths attached to the droughts, fires and heat waves associated with this year.

      Heckuva job anti-nuke.   You must be very proud of the results of anti-nuke ignorance, fear, and superstition.

      "Not dumb enough..."

      What a laugh.

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