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  •  Bingo (and several others have noted this as well) (35+ / 0-)

    Actually, it was 2 things:

    1. Underestimating the depth of pure hatred of him by the GOP

    2. Underestimating just how fucked up Bush left the economy. He and his team knew it was very bad, but didn't realize that it was catastrophic.

    It's all the more amazing that the half-sized stimulus was able to shore things up as well as it did, if you think about it.

    •  Actually, (12+ / 0-)

      it was 3 things:

      1. Underestimating the depth of pure hatred of him by the GOP

      2. Underestimating just how fucked up Bush left the economy. He and his team knew it was very bad, but didn't realize that it was catastrophic.

      3. Underestimating how deeply complicit his own economic team was/is in safeguarding the status quo.

      I'm one of the millions of Americans whose primary motivation to vote for Obama is simply to keep Romney out of the Oval Office.

      Now, I understand why, for electoral considerations, Obama can't, this late in the game, 86 Geithner et al, but AFTER the election, if he doesn't have a genuine come-to-Jesus moment and divorce all those "savvy" business men on Wall Street who've gamed the world's economy, he will most certainly NOT "stand in good company when the histories are written."

      Republican Healthcare Plan: Everyone will be encouraged to move to Chris Collins' district, where noone dies of cancer.

      by WisePiper on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:15:01 PM PDT

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      •  In truth (6+ / 0-)

        It was four things. The nifty red uniforms he was promised never arrived! Now no one expected that.

      •  Really? (1+ / 0-)
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        he will most certainly NOT "stand in good company when the histories are written."
        I know there are a bunch of folks around here that say this stuff all the time, but I don't know how you rationalize it. History does not pick apart a leader's tenure from the standpoint of the farthest-left-of-us. With the exception of a few idealized religious figures, no leader is perfect in all lights - yet many gain the consensus of approval from historians.

        Leaders are generally judged by the balance of their accomplishments in the context of their circumstances. I can think of any number of leaders that history considers "great people," despite obvious flaws in their perceptions, actions or personalities. When the histories are written, I really doubt Obama is going to get tagged for failing to come down on Wall Street, or not hauling the Bush Gang into court, or signing off on the expansion of executive power. Regardless of anyone's pet peeves with him - and believe, I've got several - that just isn't the yardstick by which world leaders are judged.

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        "The fundamental curse of the Republican party is its irrepressible disposition to meddle with other people's business, and impose its notions, and its will, on people who do not freely accept them." -- The New York Freeman's Journal, 1861

        by dzog on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 07:28:08 AM PDT

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    •  I have a theory abut why they hate him so much. (8+ / 0-)

      Not just because he's black, and certainly not because they think he's a socialist, but....

      1)  As Rove said, they expected to never lose the presidency again.  They thought they had their 1000-yr Reich in place.

      2)  They were ready for Hillary.  No matter what you might think of her as a potential president, she had a very rocky track record with the public, and the Repubs'd had 16 years to prepare their attacks.  They were looking forward to running against her and confident that they'd win.  Remember, for example, that Citizens United was about a movie attacking her.  

      3)  Then Obama came out of nowhere and stole what was "theirs".  They dropped the ball and he took it all the way.

      4)  Thus their outrage..."We've been robbed.  Give us our country back."

      And now - knowing full well that demographics will finish them off for a long time if they lose - they're going all-out to take it back.  Imo if they do win, we'll never get to vote again.  Or at least the voting lever will no longer be connected to anything.

      We've got to win this one!!!

      •  there is nothing theoretical about it (3+ / 0-)
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        they hate him because its part of the strategy of denying legitimacy to the opposition in everyway. they would do it to anybody no matter what the policies were and or who the elected official was. with us or against us, and if against, then we are totally opposed.

        and it worked during the Clinton years. not only did they kill off the health care reform then, but they pushed him right and then at a time when we had peace, prosperity, and budget surpluses they had nearly 50% and a solid electoral base HATING him and everything he stood for, including his potential successor.

        Obama's plan for dealing with that was grab the middle and never damage his personal integrity like Clinton did, so they couldn't drive hatred about him directly. so the GOP simply ginned up hatred out of whole cloth, and was able to sell it because their control of the day to day national conversation has only grown since the clinton years. that's the part Obama underestimated.

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