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  •  People in the US have a lot more crap to buy (2+ / 0-)
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    and marketed to them. I would wager that nowhere else in the world are the temptations to buy unnecessary stuff so in-your-face.

    •  Have you been to Japan or Hong Kong? (1+ / 0-)
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      •  No but I'm very famliar with the genre of (3+ / 0-)

        advertising, and I have to say that louder doesn't necessarily translate into "more" and the culture to whom you're speaking to matters as well. You can't buy all that much stuff when you live in a shoebox in HK.

        •  Just curious - just how much beer, cigarettes (1+ / 0-)
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          and drugs did you have in mind such that they won't fit into the shoe-boxed size apartment?

          •  I thought we weren't assuming they would buy (2+ / 0-)

            that sort of thing with cash vs. SNAP? Not sure where you're going with this. I don't assume that the cash would be misused for beer as much as I assume they could be talked into "needing" a satellite dish or predatory crap life insurance policy or the latest exercise ball.

            •  If you follow this subthread all the way up (1+ / 0-)
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              or maybe jump slightly to the left, I'm pretty sure it's about beer, cigarettes, and/or drugs.

              e.g, things that will provide economic stimulus to the US economy.

              But you're totally correct, if these funds might be used for satellite dishes or excercise balls - both of which are totally unlikely to be made domestically - it's best to put the kiboosh on the scheme from the getgo.

              •  Yeah I'm lost. (1+ / 0-)
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                I thought originally you were criticizing the thinking that Americans were too stupid to buy the right things with cash payments. Seems though that you'd rather have them buy cigs/beer because it's at least likely the cash is mostly staying stateside.

                While I would never deny someone who is working their butt off just to be poor a cold one or a relaxing cigarette, I would guess they should not be priorities over good food.

          •  You do realize food stamps are for non-tax (0+ / 0-)

            items only, right? I didn't read all the back and forth but this is bugging me.

            "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

            by Gorette on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 09:12:15 AM PDT

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          •  Interesting you've never recommended any (0+ / 0-)

            comment. Wow. And you've been here a little longer than I have. We both joined in 2005. HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

            "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

            by Gorette on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 09:19:37 AM PDT

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      •  I have been to Japan (2+ / 0-)
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        The advertising seemed quite similar in Tokyo, not so much in billboards in the smaller cities.

        Then there is the Japanese cultural fascination with food. Really good food. (Mostly, I did take a bite of one popular treat and called it a Japanese Twinkee.) Lots of vegetables, fish, better fats.

        Also the reality that even the middle class lives in shoe box size apartments. Families congregate in restaurants for gatherings (or public parks in good weather) because none have the room to meet in a home. That goes for entertaining friends and coworkers too.

        It isn't just the beer and cigs, that Americans are tempted to buy. Furniture, clothes (yeah, rooms full - at least in many home care patients houses) TV/stereo systems, jewelry, sports/fitness equipment, not to mention hair/nail care.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 11:52:55 AM PDT

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