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  •  There's also the problem of conflating (2+ / 0-)
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    People with their employers, which OpenSecrets' classification encourages.  If I donate to a candidate it'll be because I agree with them, not because of the interests of my employer, the University of Pennsylvania.  But I'd be classified as "raising money from higher education".  Is the idea that candidates should swear off all donations from anyone working for a finance company?  Even a secretary?  Or something's suspicious?

    26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-14 (formerly PA-02/NY-12).

    by Xenocrypt on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 09:18:21 AM PDT

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    •  I suspect you could also make (1+ / 0-)
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      a case that where one industry is very big, if not dominant, any candidate from that state will see a lot of donations from said industry. It's kind of like being surprised that a Democrat from New York or Los Angeles might have a lot of Jewish voters.

      "The election of Mitt Romney and a supporting congress this November would be a...disaster for America. Think of the trainwreck that has been the Conservative government in Britain since 2010. And square it."--Brad DeLong

      by bjssp on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 09:48:18 AM PDT

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      •  right (2+ / 0-)
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        except it is a legitimate issue, since Jewish voters aren't responsible for fucking over a lot of people. (Well, I am, but most Jewish voters aren't ;)) so it's not unreasonable to get worked up about Wall Street contributions per se, but both candidates have accepted contributions from Wall Street, so why does it really matter who's gotten more?

        And as David and Xenocrypt point out, these are individual donations, by people who may have their own personal reasons for giving to a candidate beyond wanting the candidate to support their industry.

        so like I said before, you either have to trust that both candidates will be good stewards of the middle class, or just accept that this is what we have. (Is there even a third option in the race? I vaguely recall 2010 candidate Merrick Alpert saying he'd run, but I'm not sure if he made the ballot, and at any rate he'd hardly some progressive savior.)

        Voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

        by sapelcovits on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 11:22:32 AM PDT

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    •  This, a thousand times (1+ / 0-)
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      I think OpenSecrets does a huge disservice to politics by classing individual human beings' donations as belonging to some sort of industry.

      Political Director, Daily Kos

      by David Nir on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 11:08:19 AM PDT

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      •  They sometimes might be (1+ / 0-)
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        But, for example, Kyrsten Sinema probably didn't get money from Norman Lear because she's in hock to the television industry--it was probably more because she's on the board of the People for the American Way Foundation and he founded People for the American Way.  I think the OpenSecrets approach is defensible as a crude start, but it should never be confused with a careful fundraising analysis.  

        26, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-14 (formerly PA-02/NY-12).

        by Xenocrypt on Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 11:23:38 AM PDT

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