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  •  Turley and Stephenson (0+ / 0-)

    may not be able to change BSA policy immediately from the inside on the board, but they can be far more effective than they could from the outside of the organization if they resign.

    The Scout Law (trustworthy, loyal, helpful...) is a GREAT liberal manifesto.

    by DaytonMike on Sun Jul 22, 2012 at 03:40:51 PM PDT

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    •  The act of leaving (2+ / 0-)
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      Tamar, Tennessee Dave

      may have an impact.  Especially if they can get a lot of other people to leave.

      •  Stay or go? (2+ / 0-)
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        Cassandra Waites, plf515

        Spielberg left the board in 2000, because of the Dale decision.  

        A lot of us had a choice to make:

        Stay and try to make it better (which is something my son's first assistant scoutmaster told him when he was having a hard time with some of the older kids not exactly living up to the Oath and Law).  

        or Leave.  

        We tried, we wanted to stay, but when National wanted us to sign a statement, in writing, that our chartering organization (UCC church) would abide by the policy, despite it being completely AGAINST the open and affirming United Church of Christ policies, we had to fold.  The church was no longer allowed to charter us and none of us were going to go sign up at an LDS or Catholic unit.  We had some gay family members, relatives of scouts.  They had participated in the unit on various levels for several years.  Who better to teach first aid and safety merit badges than a firefighter / paramedic?  We didn't care she was a lesbian - we all knew it - we'd all known her since she was a teenager, some of us had known her since she was a little kid.  But we weren't going to be allowed to re-register her...

        UCC was sort of targeted because their open door policy is very well known and the UCC filed friend of the court briefs for Dale.  There aren't any UCC churches chartering scouts in my area any more.  

        We did transfer a few kids to a nearby Catholic church where I had friends who were doing DADT for their troop with the church's blessing - but they were pretty liberal for a Catholic church.  The church signed their letter and sent it back from the church committee, but they never asked any leaders to sign it - just said they would be responsible for choosing scout leaders in keeping with the church's policies and let BSA assume that their policies were the same.  

        They're actually still pretty active - troop is smaller than it used to be, but they still go camping and hiking and whatnot.  Still doing DADT, and were hopeful they wouldn't have to any more, but I guess that's not the way it's going to be this year.  

        "Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." - Barack Obama

        by Ricochet67 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 at 10:00:54 AM PDT

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